What is the point of life?

[gozpel]

We all try, at least most of us try to find a path to perfection.

Some of us has tried to play music, others paint, and other goes to construction or similar things, most of us fail. But we keep on trying.

The thing with humans, they adapt, but training a new skill might take too long, so ppl go back in the backseat, instead of exploring themselves.

I played the guitar for 20 years, I was a bit bad, but a knuckle on my forefinger made me stop playing. I played classical on the guitar and one day
I decided to quit. Playing this nice tune and you get a "ploink" sound of the guitar. I couldn't do clean bars, because of this finger, so I quit.

I tried football (soccer) and I sucked, I tried ice hockey and I sucked. I tried many things and I never found my own thing.

If life would've loved me, at least a hint of what, I'm good at nothing, really. Except my work for other peoples.

Now I explore my bellybutton and wonder what I can make out of fluff.

And saying dolphins are fish is like saying mankind are apes......? Controversial, yes.

 

[Sofista]

We need to do something against these dolphins to keep our position on top of the food chain.

*makes a note reading 'eat more tuna'*

 

[Kyriakos]

Most people aren't good at anything. I don't know if that is really true in your case, since you might be looking at things in a distorted way (depression does that).

We need to do something against these dolphins to keep our position on top of the food chain.

*makes a note reading 'eat more tuna'*

Apart from their other shortcomings, they are notorious rapists too.

 

[Moff Jerjerrod]

The entire message comes across as a disingenuous sales pitch because of how he presents it. He answers his "How can I be saved?" question in the video around the 17:00 mark. It takes him about 4 minutes and he uses two quotes. All the rest comes across as pretentious "See I've read the Bible and if I quote a lot of it, it makes more believable. All the rest of the video is superfluous bible quotes that he pretends are connected. His ending scare tactics about heaven and hell point to him being a YEC, but that is not fully clear. Now, he does sound sincere and probably would want me to repent right now and be born again. Pretty unlikely. I am a pantheist and drift into the Hindu, Buddhist and Sufi camps for my spiritual refreshment.

Thanks for your reply. Yeah spreading the message has many different flavors to it depending on the deliverer. I see what you mean about him but that's not how I see him. I do believe you may be correct about him being a YEC. I fall into that category as well. Well the bottom line is do not stop seeking your spiritual refreshment.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

We all try, at least most of us try to find a path to perfection.

Some of us has tried to play music, others paint, and other goes to construction or similar things, most of us fail. But we keep on trying.

The thing with humans, they adapt, but training a new skill might take too long, so ppl go back in the backseat, instead of exploring themselves.

I played the guitar for 20 years, I was a bit bad, but a knuckle on my forefinger made me stop playing. I played classical on the guitar and one day
I decided to quit. Playing this nice tune and you get a "ploink" sound of the guitar. I couldn't do clean bars, because of this finger, so I quit.

I tried football (soccer) and I sucked, I tried ice hockey and I sucked. I tried many things and I never found my own thing.

If life would've loved me, at least a hint of what, I'm good at nothing, really. Except my work for other peoples.

Now I explore my bellybutton and wonder what I can make out of fluff.

And saying dolphins are fish is like saying mankind are apes......? Controversial, yes.

Saying dolphins are fish is like saying mankind are fish.

I think animal inteligence is like weak AI, they are good at some particular things, depending on the animal, but only humans are good at everything.

 

[AmazonQueen]

We all try, at least most of us try to find a path to perfection.

Some of us has tried to play music, others paint, and other goes to construction or similar things, most of us fail. But we keep on trying.

The thing with humans, they adapt, but training a new skill might take too long, so ppl go back in the backseat, instead of exploring themselves.

I played the guitar for 20 years, I was a bit bad, but a knuckle on my forefinger made me stop playing. I played classical on the guitar and one day
I decided to quit. Playing this nice tune and you get a "ploink" sound of the guitar. I couldn't do clean bars, because of this finger, so I quit.

I tried football (soccer) and I sucked, I tried ice hockey and I sucked. I tried many things and I never found my own thing.

If life would've loved me, at least a hint of what, I'm good at nothing, really. Except my work for other peoples.

Now I explore my bellybutton and wonder what I can make out of fluff.

And saying dolphins are fish is like saying mankind are apes......? Controversial, yes.

I'm not trying for perfection, just doing things a little better than the last time is enough.

 

[Chicken Pizza]

I disagree. A first sign of self-awareness is crying to get someone else to feed you, hold you, or wipe the feces from your backside.

A test that never succeeds 100% because nobody is perfect. Some of the grown ups will overdo it, some will underdo it. So will the child.

I've gotten the impression that Jordan Peterson calls this finding your place in different hierarchys and in that way being all that you can be.

Actually what God allows you to be, which he doesn't say he believes in, but he says he acts as he exists, and convincingly uses many bible quotes to prove his view.

Maybe Rom 9:19-21 with surroundings could summarize it:

"One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?"

 

[Chicken Pizza]

Oh, oh, I get it now.

Christians describe their moment of salvation as beginning with a need to confess their sins, as feeling completely worthless and down, but still being loved and then lifted up.

By "Jesus", which I assume is what they call it because of a christian upbringing or tradition, a need to call the overwhelming experience something, maybe for it to be from one person, and/or maybe as a way to escape from transforming.

Or a Jesus actually exists. Anyway, according to the bible they're now "not a part of this world" and many more quotes from said book.

Normally people do this around and in relation to other people, not Jesus.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I disagree. A first sign of self-awareness is crying to get someone else to feed you, hold you, or wipe the feces from your backside.

A test that never succeeds 100% because nobody is perfect. Some of the grown ups will overdo it, some will underdo it. So will the child....

You have addressed a different issue. @Sommerswerd referenced a sign of self-awareness and you responded that people were inconsistent in how they responded to that act of awareness. Those are very different things.

Is a baby crying for attention (of some sort) and act of self-awareness? And act of knowing that it is distinct from other things around it? It cries and gets a warm nipple and the sound of a familiar heartbeat. It's new found separateness (being birthed) discovers another.

The response to those cries is a very different thing and not related to the need that drives the cries in the first place. For mother and child the learning begins.

 

[gozpel]

I'm not trying for perfection, just doing things a little better than the last time is enough.

That is what I was going to say, You are not the one that will get perfection, but you bring on your knowledge to your offspring and they can continue the hunt.

Only idiot savants can get close to perfection. Meet Stephen Wiltshire.

 

[Kyriakos]

I am not sure if offspring really are typically able to continue in the case their parents already were something not-very-low or at most at the middle of things. It is pretty rare (for example) to see the son/daughter of a famous mathematician/scientist doing much. It has happened, but not often at all.
On the other hand, it is pretty common to see the children of people who took a step forward (for example, were the first in their family to go to university), continue to advance further.

 

[Birdjaguar]

@gozpel Great video!

 

[Hrothbern]

We all try, at least most of us try to find a path to perfection.

I did give up always going to perfection (of my self chosen objectives) a bit late in my life.
I learned the hard way that a perfection attitude great in solo activities (from fanatical sports or a technical solo task) does not always allign that well with managing other people or controlled managing group activities. This was a bit mitigated because most of the people I worked with were also affected by that urge for perfection in their job (Engineers LOL).
I remember from the time I was still 100% going to technical perfection a discussion with the boss of the boss of my boss where he stated quite confronting to me: "als het niet gaat zoals het moet, moet het maar zoals het gaat" (if it does not go as it should, it should go as it goes). I was, as head production reorganising all decision and work flows in the factory to get the ISO Quality system implemented in a non-bureaucratic way and had several clashes with the Head Quality who was a paragraph king and a push-over for everybody, making unhealthy compromises, and not up to the changing demands of our customers. So I declined the advice of this senior boss and pushed on, and got my way and the job done. Badly needed for the customers and the health of the company, had therefore the support of "everybody" but I left also avoidable scars behind me.
Too solo, too zealous can make a bit narrow-focussed blind.
I think I was about 50 years old or so when I finally got a bit of balance between perfection and good enough.

 

[Chicken Pizza]

Bible vibes from me? I'm a pantheist. You appear to have already made your choice about what is the path to truth; in doing so you have excluded some others.

I just had a never ending thirst for knowledge when I was young, so when I was sent around bible schools and other christian institutions, I thought that I may as well memorize the book inside out, analyze it and start debates.

That's why I base my deeply human thoughts (well..) in discussions, on the bible. The bible vibes could be my own, trying to fit everything in life into this particular one of the holy books. You could do that with your collection of Spiderman comics too.

I'm not trying to sell the bible (only myself), I try to offer a different view based on it. For example Jesus as the mediator, the peacemaker, the lamb that went to slaughter without making a sound.

The inner voice that offers energy by bowing before you, so that you in turn can share it with others. It's free, you just need to ask for it and accept that. The first shall be last and the last shall be first.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

Freedom.

What is freedom?

To be able and willing to hang yourself right now in your bathtub or alternatively try to conquer the world, and to be ready and absolutely willing to do either, at the drop of a hat, but to not really care, either way.

I have spoken!

 

[Terxpahseyton]

Being wise is starting to be fun. And really, if it wasn't, what ever was the point about being it.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

This is the S***. Making it my signature. And it actually literally described the end of my path towards actually becoming the unmovable mover. Like I literally wanted to hang myself in my bathtub, yesterday. And today. I still could. Or conquer the world instead. And this is not a fit. But now, a solid state. For while I always made premature claims.

They never were wrong. Not when it counted, anyway. I am wise.

Now kneel and... uhm.. see not even having a use for it, for now.


For now

Honestly no one needs to get worried. It is all fine. I am not seeking attention. This is decidedly not a cry for help. Just making factual statements. I know what I am doing. I really do.

 

[Michael484]

Clearly the answer is to play Civ for 12 hours non-stop everyday.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

I can attest to finding this answer quite sufficient for years, myself.

 

[Joij21]

We all try, at least most of us try to find a path to perfection.

Some of us has tried to play music, others paint, and other goes to construction or similar things, most of us fail. But we keep on trying.

The thing with humans, they adapt, but training a new skill might take too long, so ppl go back in the backseat, instead of exploring themselves.

I played the guitar for 20 years, I was a bit bad, but a knuckle on my forefinger made me stop playing. I played classical on the guitar and one day
I decided to quit. Playing this nice tune and you get a "ploink" sound of the guitar. I couldn't do clean bars, because of this finger, so I quit.

I tried football (soccer) and I sucked, I tried ice hockey and I sucked. I tried many things and I never found my own thing.

If life would've loved me, at least a hint of what, I'm good at nothing, really. Except my work for other peoples.

Now I explore my bellybutton and wonder what I can make out of fluff.

And saying dolphins are fish is like saying mankind are apes......? Controversial, yes.

It's all about genetics, being born to the right parents/family, first world country, and demographics.

Your non genetic impulses are almost entirely determined by your parents and upbringing, so it's not like anyone has any real agency in life.

Everything was determined from the moment you were conceived as to whether you'll be a failure or not. Learning and improvement has nothing to do with motivation, an ability to successfully learn and improve is all genetic despite what overly optimistic teachers would tell you. Otherwise chimpanzees and dolphins would be starting fires!