What new civs would you like to see added in an expansion pack?

Tremo said:
The Netherlands; Nautical/Financial + free golden age at the beginning of the 17th century! Woohoo! :p

Heh, well, everything i want to see in an expansion has already been mentioned here so... ;)
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The Dutch should have something like Financial and Industrious. The UU should be the "Fluytschip", a fast galleon-type with some combat abilities. Their starting skills: Fishing and agriculture. Leaders: Willem van Oranje or Maurits van Nassau.
 
Definately the Norsemen, Carthagians, Native Americans(Any tribe really), Libyans, Mexicans!!!
 
Oivind said:
I dont think so. Are you certain?
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The Dutch aren't "norseman". The nation (from the modern Netherlands to Luxembourg) was originally inhabited by Germanic and Celtic tribes in the times of the Romans.
Later most provinces belonged to the Frankish kingdom under Charlemange, then later the Holy Roman empire (modern Germany, Czech republic, Austria, Nothern Italy and the Netherlands). At the time of the war of independace, most provinces had fallen to Bourgondy, followed by transition to the Spanish through inheritence.

If anything the Netherlands are more Germanic then anything else.
 
Khmers - Southeast Asia is always unrepresented in Civ.
If you have Angkor Wat in the game,
you might as well have the people who built it.
Thai - To go along with the Khmers
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Agree on that. As has been said SE asia have been totally ignored in the games so far. I really cant see putting in some Indian tribe from the Americas (aside from the Inca/Aztec) before putting in a representitive from SE asia. Siam had been known through out the world as a great empire in asia since the 1500s. At the time the capital, Ayuthaya, was bigger and, as some had reported, more impressive than either London or Paris ( Burmese burned it to the ground in the 1780s). I dont know that I would add both Siamese and Khmers, but at least one should be represented.
 
I think its important that new civs is a little exotic. With the french and English empires we already have two neghbouring European powers with quite similar histories, I would like some indians and south-east asians instead of another european power. Some old middleeastern civs like Sumeria and Babylon would be grat too.
 
These nine are must-have civs. After them I don't care much what civs Firaxis decides to add.

1. Babylon or Assyria or Sumeria
2. Scandinavia
3. Turks
4. Khmer
5. Iroquois (or maybe some other native american civ)
6. Carthage
7. Koreans
8. Ethiopia
9. Celts

Runner-up civs are Maya, Nubia, Netherlands, Poland, Austria and Zulu.
 
here's what I'd like to see in an expansion.
1. new game rules, specifically, I'd like to see a "Colonize" ability akin to what europe did to um... everywhere. Something where you wouldn't necessarily have to have a super massive military to take over another city, just be really flashy, and then gain access to their resources. An evil period in history, but an interesting twist on gameplay

2. Am I the only one who wants to play as G.W. Bush? Maybe I'm just perverse. Actually, many current leaders would be fun.

3. I agree that some interesting projected future tech stuff would be neat. I.e. look at some of the research thats going on in theoretical physics - there could be supercollider improvements, fusion research, energy weapon research, clone or AI armies (which would be less prone to making citizens unhappy during wartime) Idunno, lots of possibilities

and now my civ picks

1. Khmer
2. Thai (a longshot, but a great culture)
3. Ethiopian
4. Sumeria
5. Celts
 
Scandinavia, Celts and the Byzantines!

Scandinavia is still a unique place, and it has a long history in Europe: the Viking raids, the Kalmar Union, the thirty years' war and the great Swedish nation that followed, which ranged from Norway to Prussia, Poland and Estland. Leaders could be Gustav Adolf "the Snow King" (a great Swedish king) and perhaps Erik the Red (a Norwegian adventurer who founded Greenland).

Similarly, although the Celtic "empire" didn't last long, it did range from one end of Europe to another.

The Byzantines have always had a spot in my heart. I just love the history and the unique culture of the eastern Roman state. I think they were poorly presented in CivIII, but now there might be a chance to remedy that.

I also miss the Babylonians. Although, I have to admit that Persia does a good job at representing most Middle-Eastern civilizations. You can easily think that they represent Assyrians, Sumerians and Babylonians. But there's nothing that can represent the Norsemen. There might be a spot for Turks/Ottomans, though.

An evil period in history, but an interesting twist on gameplay
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Exploitation of the masses was not invented by the Europeans. The European leaders only replaced the existing tyrants with despots of their own.

Perchance civilized nations should have taken a different approach than the age-old exploitation of those who are weaker and technologically backward, but that was the Zeitgeist then (and I can't say it has passed). Similarly, slavery was a part of the Zeitgeist, when thousands upon thousands of them were shipped from Africa to the United States of America. Certainly we see these periods as "evil", but that's just our modern, Western morals speaking.

To a slave, a tyrant is a tyrant, no matter what culture or race he represents.
 
Dutch
Babylonians
Byzantines
Ottomans
Scandinavians
Celts

I don't necessarily want an even distribution of civilizations around the globe, but if that has to be the case, I'd like to see Maori or Aboriginals to represent Australia and/or New Zealand.
 
Scandinavia is still a unique place, and it has a long history in Europe: the Viking raids, the Kalmar Union, the thirty years' war and the great Swedish nation that followed, which ranged from Norway to Prussia, Poland and Estland. Leaders could be Gustav Adolf "the Snow King" (a great Swedish king) and perhaps Erik the Red (a Norwegian adventurer who founded Greenland).
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Erik the Red was Icelandic, not Norweigan ... his son, Leif Erikson was still more important. He found America first of all white men and traded with the Indians, peacefully, and therefor is a great merchant in Civ 4, I like it that way so he wont be a leader... probably... My top candidates are Queen Margareth of The Kalmar Union and Gustav Adolf, like you said. If you want a pshychoist you pick Ragnar Lodbrok or Harald Hardrada. If you want a seaman, you pick Leif. If you pick the king that was a Polish prince but was raised in Scandinavia and conquered England, you pick Canute the great. If you pick a woman that was tougher than any other and probobly the most expansionist ruler of Scandinavia, you pick Queen Margareth. Or you could pick a Swedish king, a general, a thinker; you pick Gustav Adolf. There are many options. Vikingz all the way. Included cities of Scandinavia: York, Dublin and Kiev. And I've got a question. Why the hell is Russia in the game and not Scandinavia. Scandinavia is Russia, well, mixed with Slavs and some Ural tribes... Well, maybe just Dublin, because the other cities were probably more related to other civs.. thank you. I also like the Aboriginal idea, and I support Ethiopia also. Berserks as UU
 
Turks, Vikings, Babylonians, Celts, Abyssinians and Carthagenians (or Phoenicians).
 
King Ash said:
The Dutch aren't "norseman". The nation (from the modern Netherlands to Luxembourg) was originally inhabited by Germanic and Celtic tribes in the times of the Romans.
Later most provinces belonged to the Frankish kingdom under Charlemange, then later the Holy Roman empire (modern Germany, Czech republic, Austria, Nothern Italy and the Netherlands). At the time of the war of independace, most provinces had fallen to Bourgondy, followed by transition to the Spanish through inheritence.

If anything the Netherlands are more Germanic then anything else.
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I'm a dutchman, let me tell you who we are;

When the roman history writer Tacticus writes about the Germanic tribes around 100 after the birth of Christ, he mentions the occupants of the now formed modern Netherlands, the Frisii. With this writing the occupants of the Netherlands receive a name for the first time in history. We are indeed a germanic tribe from origin (like the Germans), and a little related to the northern germanic tribes like the Danish, Norish and Icelanders. mixed with perhaps a little Batavian, Celtic blood. And mixed with a little Roman and French blood in our southern provinces (or below our bigger rivers) due to their occupation and due to the religious immigrants. Story goos that the first occupants of the Netherlands entered our country at the river the Rijn, these first occupants where the 'Batavians'. We're probably not much ralted to the Celts since they where driven of by the Romans to the west, they are probably only to be found in the west of Bretagne, modern Great Brittain and Ireland nowadays.

Actually it isn't sure who our ancestors where, but from our appearance (mostly blond hair, tall and blue eyes) we can say we are offspring of the Germanic tribes and a little related to the northern germanic tribes like the Danish, Norish and Icelanders.
 
The Netherlands could always have the Flying Dutchman. :D

Oh well, might as well say my choices again at least once.

Israelis, Babylonians, Khmer, Ethiopians, Khazarians, Vikings/Scandavians & Turks. Off the top of my head anyways.
 
SkippyT said:
Erik the Red was Icelandic, not Norweigan
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That depends on how you look at it. Erik was born in Norway, but his family was exiled while he was still young.
 
My... this thread looks familiar =P

I stand by my first list on page 1, but I'd like to make an addition or three.

Akkadians - It was essentially the first empire ever, and another ancient power would be nice.
Ashanti - In the tradition of somewhat obscure African states.
Polish - Not the highest on my list, but it's a cool country and I think it deserve a place.

Also, does anyone know how many civs this expansion is going to have?
 
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