whats the deal here

[weimar_republic]

whats the deal? you guys made posts about me returning, and when I do you disagree with everything I say? let me reply to it all in one large post

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thats who I am. I will always have little grabs for power and such, it's who I am, I must lead. I have a large imagination and am ambitios, I am sorry if you guys dont like it, but I will always try for power. I know I will never get it, and dont want to become a moderator cause truthfully, I probably couldent do it, but I will always ask. its who I am

b-my life is my life. I am sorry if you guys dont want to hear about it, I will talk about it anyways. as you all by now know, I havent had the easiest of lifes. havent you figured thier might be a coalation to the fact that no one really likes me and the fact that I want power. I want to be someone, I want people to remember me, I feel so lonley that I need it really. I am sorry about that, but its who I am.

c-I know alot of people disagree with my belifs, most recentley agianst islam. my argument is that its not the only religion that is that bad. christian religions, well the catholic religion for a fact, says all other religions are wrong. that is wrong. you can belive whatever you want. the muslim koran DOES provide for a war, in gods name, to help the islamic religion. I do NOT support the killing of innocent muslims, but if you watch the governments of the islamic world, it seems that they have no problem with innocent jews being killed. I know that Israel has its own terroist problems, they kill to many palistinians, what is it now, 400? whos counting...

I guess it all stems back to an ABC report I watched... during the kosovo crisis... 2 men came driving a car and shot a machine gun towards German peacekeeping troops. they shot back, killing the driver, and wounding the passenger... they then treated 1 german soldier for a slight bullet wound, that from his facial expressions, wasent even that painful. meanwhile, the passenger sat in the car, crippled, pleading "help help" in pain. he sat there, in pain, bleeding, dieing, for 4 hours. while german soldies looked on. he died there in the car. the ABC camreman even capturing him dieing. he did nothng, the germans did nothing, no one did anyhitng. I dont CARE what you did, no one, NO ONE deserves to die like that. I guess I have never looked at the world the same since that day...

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[Simon Darkshade]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I do not disagree with everything you say, just the recent diatribe against Muslims, which you have since clarified, and on a lesser note, your...strange classification of different groups of people.

Wanting power, but at the same time knowing that you will not get it. An interesting conundrum. Perhaps if you focus your ambition and imagination on a specific goal, rahter than trying to rule CivFanatics, it may be more possible and rewarding.

It is not that we don't want to hear about your life, I don't really mind, as it provides a different perspective on the human condition, but rather we will generally respond to something that is posted. The people giving you what they see as good advice are not doing so to spite you, mock you, or control you. They just wish to help.

The correlation between wanting power and no one liking you is an age old problem, with the former being used as a substitute for the latter. Given the way power and rulership in this world works, if you ever achieve power, you will find it very lonely and conducive to paranoia, as Machiavelli's assertion that it is better to be feared than loved rings true. This is no real way to compensate for a lack of love, but if you want to pursue that path, follow these few tips:
Appear even more mysterious and distant.
Gather a core of supporters. Take them from the fringes of society, from the outcasts, or the younger age groups, so any rise will be due to you, increasing loyalty (potentially)
Become tough and violent, and lose all morals
Make people fear you, but not know you
Let calamity harden your heart and turn it to steel.

Use whatever advantages you have: Intelligence, if you have it, of both kinds.
Be known as a man who knows things.

This is not a pleasant path, and if you want to take it, I would be surprised, given your previous longing for love, friends, and social democratic world leadership

There are other ways of being someone, of being remembered, without trying to take over all you see.Think on that. Even if you have had a tough little life, it will change if you actively want it to. Finish school with the best grades, and then if need be leave the baggage of your past behind, go somewhere else and make a life. Seize opportunity, and hold it in a death grip.
Use the ambition and imagination you have. Find somethings you are good at and become the best. It is entirely possible, if you want it enough.

On the matter of the wounded passenger, one would think that he was shot too badly to bother trying to fix him. They instead concentrated on their comrade, rather than their enemy who had just tried to kill them.
Nasty, I know, but war is not for the faint hearted and weak stomached. The cameraman could not get involved because that was not their job. Harsh, but that is the world.

Maybe noone deserves to die like that, but they do, and more innocent people die in far worse ways every minute virtually.
When you live in a cruel world, you learn to live with cruelty,laugh at it even, or you spend your whole life crying.

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Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you.
- N.S.Khrushchev

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

My jabs at you have been, in wargaming style, in fun despite their surface hostility. You make a joke coup, I make a countercoup sarcastic/insult joke. When you start a joke thread, expect that all that follows in it is humor of one form or another.

 

[Loaf Warden]

You seem very concerned with having people like you. I can understand that, for I have walked that path myself. What I learned is that nobody likes a whiner. In high school, I complained a lot that nobody liked me, and that only served to increase everyone's annoyance with me and decrease their already low esteem for me. The trick, I learned, is to act like you don't even care if they like you. I'm not saying become a cold-hearted bastard who treats everyone like an inferior. I just mean, be yourself, and don't worry about whether people like you. You may or may not gain a lot of friends that way (truth be told, I still have very few actual friends in the real world), but people will respect you more if you just act like you have confidence in yourself. (You don't actually have to have the confidence, you just have to act like you do. Then when you start to see the results, the confidence will come naturally.) If they respect you for being yourself, then they will come to like you. My social life improved when I learned to stop whining, and yours will too. Enough of the "Screw-you-guys-I'm-leaving-because-everybody-hates-me" posts. Enough with the starting entire threads to complain about us, whether someone has done someting wrong or you're just complaining that people don't like you. And stop trying to take over or pretending to try to take over. Even if it is just a joke, it's getting tiresome. We've all seen more than enough of that lately.

 

[BlueMonday]

In repsonse to part a: Learn your place. Part of life is learning about what to do and when to do it. If you have to lead, fine...but doing meaningless grabs for power just chafes my undercarriage. I don't care if it's who you are. Who you are is not an excuse for anything. Should we excuse Hitler and what he did because that's who he was?

In response to part B: Learn yourself some humility. There's a certain art to socialization...it's called holding back. There are excrutiating details about people's lives that others don't want to know about unless they're in intimate contact. When you meet someone for the first time you don't tell them that your parents used to beat the **** out of you (don't anyone get any ideas; it's just an example) and you spent a good deal of time fighting the cockroaches for a bed to sleep in.

You don't tell them that stuff, cause they don't want to know, there's no reason for them to know, and the pure shock will either push them away or cause a pity reflex. Think about it. What do you know about me or most other people on the forum. You know a little about my lifestyle. You know a little bit about the things I do in my free time. Some of you even know my real name. But you hardly know anyting about me. Why? Because you and I don't share a home or bed. I don't tell you about my problems, the little things that make me tick, why I work nights, or my sex life. Why? The person I am here, and the person that I reveal to the rest of you is not dependant on those things. In other words, those are things you don't need to know, and for the most part you shouldn't want to know.

In reponse to part C: Man, I'm not even going to touch this one. It's just more narrow minded foolishness.

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[Magnus]

weimar_republic. a word of advice. be in control of your own life before you try to run someone else's.

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

I think your insane.

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[weimar_republic]

simon, lefty, and loaf, thank you for those. its not things that you guys say that make me think people hate me, its things like "you are a F* idiot" that makes people think they hate me. are you telling me that there is a diffrence between being someone's F* idiot and havin them hate me, I dont think so.

I dont want or intend to run anyones life. that not my job. I dont know why anyone would get that idea. I dont know why anyone would think I would ever have the chance to take power in the forum. that is just plain stupid. no one but thinderfall has any real power, for anyone else to claim they do mean they have no brains and should be fed to the dogs, or that they are joking. I thought everyone understood this, as the coup was a joke. can I ever seriousely take power here? think about it.

I am not saying we are to excuse hitler for being a nazi, I am just saying that that friend of yours that always talks and talks, and your aunt velma, who calls often about her bunyon surgery stories, arent meaning to be annoying, they just are, its who they are. I am weimar republic. I talk alot, and freeley express my extreme opinions. I even step on some toes soemtimes. I am imaginative and I am a joker. if you dont like that, well I am sorry. thats who I am, and with all these people telling me to 'be myself' I am not going to change that

also, I dont want power. I just have a large imaginaiton. if it wasent for the fact that I thought I can rule things I would have never bought civ! I think that I can help people with my brains, which is about my only strong point. also, I am trying to change. I try to be less annoying, but when I make a simple joke, hell, I cant take power here if I WANTED to, which I dont, so why would it be anyhitng but a joke, and people take it seriousley, that makes me mad. just like the 'lets bash americans' thread. geeze holy, you must know me by now, I joke, thats me, stop taking me so seriousley all the time. yes I make serious comments about my life. but I do joke around. lefty had a good suggestion, a countercoup

someone even had me executed by firing squad, but THATS the responce I want, not "you stupid idiot, I hate your guts" thats why I left the forum in the first palce

I know that I am a very open person, thats who I am. you guys know almost nothing about me... I but on so many masks, that seriousely, I dont know who I am anymore... I was debating with myself about sex... weather the 'real' me is a sex hog who wnats it, a face I put on often, or weather the 'real' me is a nice guy who dosent, antoher face I put on often, and the truth is... I dont even know who the real me is anymore. I always have masks on...

so next time I am saying somehting you disagree with, take a look, and say to yourself "is he joking" and if it seems possible, then it probably is.

sorry for soundin so mean, but it irks me alot.



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[Flatlander Fox]

*Hitting himself over head while screaming "Why am I replying to this?!?!?"*

On the first two points:

A: You want attention!!!

B: You want attention!!!

But my young attention wanting friend, the main reason for my reply was your third and final point. Otherwise I would have avoided this topic like the others (Although you seem a little less psychotic then you were in your past

).

C: How can you feel the slightest remorse for a man who committed "suicide by German soldier"? What if that German soldier had died??? Then would your verdict be any different? Anybody who has ever been shot at knows there are two initial reactions; GET DOWN!!! and MAKE THEM STOP SHOOTING!!!. The Germans followed the first, and executed the second with devastating results. There was no question on how the skirmish was going to end.

Don't feel pity for someone who knowingly went to their death, and at least in their mind, died for their country. Thank god that he didn't make anyone else die for theirs.
Human life is valuable, but once people start trying to kill other folks, things get a bit dicey. And when it is you and the other guy, chances are you are always going to pick the other guy. Unless you are as crazy as I think you are...

I hope I don't offend you too much, and if I didn't at all then maybe you are learning something here.

P.S. And remember, YOU are the one who wanted answers (attention) to your questions, so don't complain when you hear them.

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[weimar_republic]

lol

imigining fox hitting hiself and yelling

anyways, "(Although you seem a little less psychotic then you were in your past)." is that a compliment... ?

and its not that I want attention, I just want to talk and have people talk back to me. thats about it really. I like sharing infromation.

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[dreadhead7]

weimar, I certainly don't dislike you, or anyone on this board. I did respond to your post about the Ki-Ju's. In it, I gave some info about myself that some would object to, and that I normally wouldn't give, but I was trying to make a point that no matter how terrible you think things are, you can change things if you work hard enough. I don't want to be felt sorry for because I have risen from my past.
I realize, also, that you are a teenager, and that some teens, while trying to find themselves and make their way, sometimes do and say things purely for the shock value. In fact, I think that in many cases, people on the Internet are not what they seem, and will post things that they'd never say to anyone in person.
Anyway, thats just my view.


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[goodbye_mr_bond]

A very eloquent and touching account it was too by the way, dreadhead. Thank you for sharing it.

 

[starlifter]

thats who I am. I will always have little grabs for power and such, it's who I am, I must lead.

Real leaders do not lead by making "little grabs for power and such". But if you "must lead", by all means do so. Do a good job, and someone may follow.

I am beginning to discover after reading several threads that a lot of people actually take pains to coddle you, Weimar. You should be grateful that many are pretty tolerant of some rather disjointed and disconnected thoughts of yours. Your 8-minute resignation from the Forum was particulary bizzare, but I must admit mildly amusing.

 

[SunTzu]

Yeah weimar just be yourself and you'll find friends. I had alot of friends in elementary then i went to a school with new people (private) while my friends went to West Memphis High i went to West Memphis Christian High from 7th-9th and i didn't have any friends mainly because i didn't wear designer clothes like everyone. Bah.
But just be yourself. If someone makes fun of you don't get made make a joke about them back in a laughing matter. People, especially people in Junior and Senior High School like people who can handle and dish out put downs. Me and my friends always make fun of each other, its just for kicks. Just take life easy like i do. If someone makes fun of me i diss them so much

Like this one black kid was giving me **** for a while in my english class for a couple of weeks and i just shook it off, then one day he said something to me about my shirt or some stupid crap like that, i just started making fun of him all class period. We were all laughing and i made like 8 new friends that day just by being myself.
You don't need money or a nice car or a popular mate to be popular. If you be yourself and show people that your a fun loving person you'll make friends left and right.
Just go up to people in your class and just start a conversation about the local news or something that happened in school recently or whatever. The thing is to talk to people and let them get to know the real you. I don't know about your school or any other school but at my school everyone pretty much gets along with everyone.
Just don't be afraid to talk to people you don't know. I know because i didn't talk much 7th-9th grade cause i was really shy and didn't know what to say.
So to wrap things up:
Be yourself. Don't try to be someone your not.
Be able to take a joke, and be able to make jokes back in a fun laughing matter.
Talk to people and make new friends
Good luck!

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