which civs would you add?
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Shabbaman
rebuffing the rebels
Errrr, I think you made a typo here or you might want to go back to your history book.
bobgote
Trousers
yes. I second this.
The dutch have been pretty significant. The vikings I couldn't really say the same for. They're just fun.
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Where is the typo? Didn't dutch, vikings and portuguese have a major impact in European history? Who must go back to his history books?
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
I recognise that UK empire was bigger at the 20th century, but I meant in terms of power... in 19th century, France and German grown strong competitors, and in 20th USA completelly took it from the 1st place in world's leadership.
I'm happy with your new civs (except from Portuguese exclusion, that I think it is unfair, due to our major influence in 15th and 16th centuries... and for the Vikings, who also lacks in your list). But I liked the list and above all that idea of adding a new civ each month. Sultan Bhargash to CEO of Firaxis!!
I only did't like to read that history is not given at school this days. I hope you were kidding about it...
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
It's interesting to see how europeans and americans don't agree on... European History! I wonder who is right... 
Ribannah
Fighter Druid
Egypt and several other parts of Africa were never really owned, and anyhow only more or less governed (as a trustee) after they had already lost Canada and Australia in 1907.
So how does this add up to a quarter of the planet (and, btw, it hardly overlaps eg the Spanish claims despite being of a different century). AFAIK the Mongol empire was the largest ever in square km, and that wasn't a quarter either.
Shabbaman
rebuffing the rebels
I don't, but you should read what I write before reacting prematurely and go into flaming/spamming mode.
acjvanv wrote that Portugal, The Netherlands and Vikings (...) have had a bigger impact on European history than Germany, England and France. I doubt that because it's simply not true. History is far too complicated to make such a statement, but The Netherlands is definitely NOT a defining nation in Europe. And, for your information, I'm perfectly aware of my national history.
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
OK. Sorry then. Got to read all the posts next time
Sultan Bhargash
Trickster Reincarnated
I wasn't the one who said it was a quarter of the planet, but as an American who works in Africa alot I always thank the UK for spreading English around.
bobgote - more than half of us sure do hate our "government", but unless I am mistaken, you guys have less of an excuse because you got to vote yours in.
Portuguese - alright, fine the Portuguese are in. And as my first act as CEO of Firaxis, I'm not going to give them or the Dutch special units. Who needs yet another horsemen/swordsmen anyway? Instead, the Dutch get the special improvement of windmill, acts like a coal plant but comes into play with Invention. The Portuguese get the special technology of lateen sails, comes in with navigation, improves the movement of all their ships by two.
As for the Vikings, I wouldn't say they were useless as a civ. They found their way to the new world, they traded deep into Russia and down to north Africa, they ultimately decided against becoming Islamic when they had the chance (NO MEAD? HAH!) and they forced other civs to react in ways they wouldn't have, including the spread of Christianity and organization into states.
Borrowing a tactic from America's current CEO, my second act as head of Firaxis would be to refund half of the price of civ 3 to everyone who had to suffer through two patches and still aren't always getting to build their palace...
bobgote - more than half of us sure do hate our "government", but unless I am mistaken, you guys have less of an excuse because you got to vote yours in.
Portuguese - alright, fine the Portuguese are in. And as my first act as CEO of Firaxis, I'm not going to give them or the Dutch special units. Who needs yet another horsemen/swordsmen anyway? Instead, the Dutch get the special improvement of windmill, acts like a coal plant but comes into play with Invention. The Portuguese get the special technology of lateen sails, comes in with navigation, improves the movement of all their ships by two.
As for the Vikings, I wouldn't say they were useless as a civ. They found their way to the new world, they traded deep into Russia and down to north Africa, they ultimately decided against becoming Islamic when they had the chance (NO MEAD? HAH!) and they forced other civs to react in ways they wouldn't have, including the spread of Christianity and organization into states.
Borrowing a tactic from America's current CEO, my second act as head of Firaxis would be to refund half of the price of civ 3 to everyone who had to suffer through two patches and still aren't always getting to build their palace...
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Hippies
Civ characteristics: Laid-back & Pacifistic
Unique Unit: Yogi Explorer Unit, increases chance of other civ's cities culture flipping to you
May not use any tiles with cattle!
Hippies
Civ characteristics: Laid-back & Pacifistic
Unique Unit: Yogi Explorer Unit, increases chance of other civ's cities culture flipping to you
May not use any tiles with cattle!
The Last Conformist
Irresistibly Attractive
The Lapps?!?
To begin with, the term "Lapps" isn't politically correct anymore. You're supposed to say Sámi.
I very strongly think they should not be in a Civ game. They've never had cities (all cities in the Sámi area has been founded by others, and none has a Sámi majority). They've never been politically united, nor possessed any advanced politcal institutions of their own. They've been mostly nomadic until modern times. If they're qualified as a "civilization" in the game, any number of nomadic groups around the globe are.
Israel is a hinderance to US foreign policy in the middle east. Our relations with many countries (Jordan, Saudi, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, and the small Gulf states) would be much smoother if not for the Israeli conflict.
Kosovars are paler than Afghans, no?
Absolutely.
Kal-el
Deity
Absolutely not! I would not want to be a citizen of any other country in the world, and I can't believe you feel otherwise, Carver.
Israel is the only true Democracy in the region and is our only true ally in the middle east. Our relations with the rest of the region would be much smoother if they would agree to quit supporting terrorists and opening thier elections, allowing women to vote and coming out of the 16th century.
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Each new post you are getting better!
I'd agree on that special sea movement. Very good idea, as caravels won't be of great use and "naus" already exist as man-o-wars"
And that idea of reward the beta players I'm sure it would please us all!
Good inputs!
Sultan Bhargash
Trickster Reincarnated
Wow, the Last Conformist, location Sweden, totally dumping on the Sami (I guess you would want us to call the Finns the Suomi and the Swiss the Confederation Helvetica?). Just because a culture doesn't conform to our idea of a civ (cities, writing, women voting, whatever) doesn't mean we should strongly object to their inclusion. The Sami are still as Civvy as the Iroquois, and as far as nomads, well wouldn't your Vikings more or less appear that way to us today?
Kal-el, you can hate your government and love your country. I am sure you were probably in that position during the Clinton regime, if you like these guys so much.
Portuguese, voce ja foi ao Brasil? It is your version of America, fascinating place. I go in three weeks de novo. Vivi em Rio de Janeiro um ano. Muito boa.
Kal-el, you can hate your government and love your country. I am sure you were probably in that position during the Clinton regime, if you like these guys so much.
Portuguese, voce ja foi ao Brasil? It is your version of America, fascinating place. I go in three weeks de novo. Vivi em Rio de Janeiro um ano. Muito boa.
Kal-el
Deity
I guess its a matter of symantics. I was thinking more along the lines of form of government not necessarily about the current administration. The Administration changes at least every 8 years, the government has remained relatively the same for the past 226 years.
The vikings had a tremendous impact on world history.
The Vikings gave birth to the Ukraine and Russia. They civilized the Ukraine, turning it from a big 'ol plain into the beginings of the agrarian powerhouse we know it as today. In fact, the word "Rus" is the viking name for the Ukraine, and it is from this that the whole of Russia takes its name.
The Vikings once stretched all the way to Constantinople, and that was when Constantanople was a world leading metropolis.
And what's all this about the German's creating atomic weapons. I mean, what the h*ll? They gave the world nuclear fission, but it's a long way from that to the atom bomb. In fact, their atom bomb project in WWII was totally pursuing the wrong leads -- they weren't even close.
The Vikings gave birth to the Ukraine and Russia. They civilized the Ukraine, turning it from a big 'ol plain into the beginings of the agrarian powerhouse we know it as today. In fact, the word "Rus" is the viking name for the Ukraine, and it is from this that the whole of Russia takes its name.
The Vikings once stretched all the way to Constantinople, and that was when Constantanople was a world leading metropolis.
And what's all this about the German's creating atomic weapons. I mean, what the h*ll? They gave the world nuclear fission, but it's a long way from that to the atom bomb. In fact, their atom bomb project in WWII was totally pursuing the wrong leads -- they weren't even close.
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
Baron Scot
Minister of Slacking
Originally posted by Portuguese
It's interesting to see how europeans and americans don't agree on... European History! I wonder who is right...
this is an easy one. we the americans are allways right, didnt you know that portuguese?
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