Which old leaders are most improved in BTS?

[Neapolitan]

Everyone's talking about the new civs and leaders, but the veterans deserve some respect too.

My vote has to go to Ramesses II.
His UB now lasts much longer and the new wonder Shwedagon Paya plays perfectly to his talents. I've never been a fan of the Spiritual trait, but the thought of Stonehenge, the Pyramids, and Shwedagon Paya all under Ramesses is making me change my mind.
If only I could find some stone...

 

[madscientist]

Agustus. All the complaints about him getting nerfed but he is now Industrious. Building a ton of wonders in Rome, ala OBSOLETE's game (The situation just was good for it) and ready to build the Forum and parthanon in another city changing him into a mini Ind/PHIL leader, at least until chemistry.

 

[Jet]

^^^ Interesting insight, madscientist!

One that is improved is Hannibal. Better UU, effectively better UB, and better Monuments.

 

[OKScientist]

Alexander is quite imporoved too, I dig the new Phalanx a lot (although I play it with Pericles, but he 's new).

 

[sigmakan]

The new phalanx is crazy good. (Well I also seem the get the shock upgrade random event almost every time lol)

 

[The Bowman]

Agustus. All the complaints about him getting nerfed but he is now Industrious. Building a ton of wonders in Rome, ala OBSOLETE's game (The situation just was good for it) and ready to build the Forum and parthanon in another city changing him into a mini Ind/PHIL leader, at least until chemistry.

If Industrial is his one trait, what is the other?

Also, what level were you playing at? I am curious to know if Obsolete's methods can still work on the hard levels with BTS. I don't see why not though.

 

[MangleMeElmo]

^^Augustus is Industrious/Imperialistic

 

[Martinus]

I agree with all the above - Ramesses (and, to a lesser extent Hatty), Augustus and Alexander all got a solid buff from BtS.

 

[madscientist]

If Industrial is his one trait, what is the other?

Also, what level were you playing at? I am curious to know if Obsolete's methods can still work on the hard levels with BTS. I don't see why not though.

Prince level, Marathon speed, huge maps. Big/little (continents mixed with isle changes) random all else

I have essentially used OBSOLETEs Method os spamming wonder, settling most GP (I have a GS, GE, GM ready for corps) although I used one for a golden age (I have the Mauseleum built). I have setteld other cities (12 total) as I normally would and cottage as I see appropriate. Overall, he rocks I have gotten 17 great people (plus the GM from economics), the first being a great spt which I setteld. My spies keep stopping missions, I keep one in each city and divy the EPs I get, seams OK. Currently researching physics which I will get first (I know by espionage), SOL taking 35 turns, very minor wars which I declared, never really had to use Prats. Noone seams to want to declare war on me since I have the GW and statue of Zues (I think) even though I am low on the power graphs.

Agustus rocks with industrious and the UB!!!