Who should be on a Jury?

Who should get to be on a Jury?


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Believing in Jury nullification is a good way to not make it on to a jury.
For criminal defense work, I always like to find a reasonably intelligent jury nullifier in the jury pool though. Even though I know he will get struck, he can be used during voir dire to get some ideas into the head of those that will make the cut.
 
people capable of judging the facts of the case and the law itself, ie, the morality or immorality of both the law and the punishment (if any).

any hope of obtaining justice requires all of the above
 
I'm glad I wasn't put in a position where I had to gauge the morality of the law. It was difficult enough finding someone guilty of what I consider to be a very serious felony. If it had been a drug-related case or one where the death penalty might be involved, I would have tried to get myself excluded.
 
For criminal defense work, I always like to find a reasonably intelligent jury nullifier in the jury pool though. Even though I know he will get struck, he can be used during voir dire to get some ideas into the head of those that will make the cut.

How do I communicate I'm okay with jury nullification to you, while not making it clear to the Prosecution?
 
How do I communicate I'm okay with jury nullification to you, while not making it clear to the Prosecution?

Blink it out in morse code.
 
Do the universal sign of jury nullification is A-ok.

How didn't you know that? :D
 
How do I communicate I'm okay with jury nullification to you, while not making it clear to the Prosecution?
You can't. All you can do is provide neither side a reason. Both sides are striking the ideal jurors for the other side, so the less you stick out, the better your chances of getting on the jury.
 
I would prefer professionals rather then some guy off the street. With the current system I can get selected for jury duty once I turn 18 even though I have both ADHD and Bipolar Disorder. I know for a fact that I couldn't stand being in a court for a full trial but unfortunately I'm quite intelligent (IQ of 135) so I am a likely candidate. :(
 
I would prefer professionals rather then some guy off the street. With the current system I can get selected for jury duty once I turn 18 even though I have both ADHD and Bipolar Disorder. I know for a fact that I couldn't stand being in a court for a full trial but unfortunately I'm quite intelligent (IQ of 135) so I am a likely candidate. :(
Voir dire isn't an IQ test.
 
Why do people think having a high IQ means you are a good juror or something. Being a good juror just means you pay attention, can be fair, and can follow instructions.

Lawyers get kicked off of jury panels all the time. In fact they are often some of the first ones to go precisely for the high likelihood they will not meet the rigorous criteria stated in my second sentence.
 
I'd have no problem lying to a prosecutor about my beliefs wrt jury nullification, but thats illegal too and they'd go after me if I made the jury and acquitted based on an immoral law.

Lying aint always immoral ;) sometimes morality requires it
 
Why do people think having a high IQ means you are a good juror or something. Being a good juror just means you pay attention, can be fair, and can follow instructions.

Oh I know I'll be a terrible Juror I'm just stating that because I'm smart I'll likely be picked.
 
I doubt you would make it past voir dire. They specifically asked a number of questions about ADHD and other medical conditions which may affect your service on a jury.
 
I doubt you would make it past voir dire. They specifically asked a number of questions about ADHD and other medical conditions which may affect your service on a jury.

Well that's good to know, I'll still have to drag myself to the courthouse for a week though.
 
Oh. Because you say so. Got any "proof" to support this wacky allegation?

Sure, the simple fact that juries across the USA have people serve on them from all walks of life each and every day.

So your contention is that many attorneys deliberately try to subvert the legal system in some sort of manner by not doing exactly as I described above?

Jury selection process isnt a subversion of the process, but rather a valid attempt to ensure a fair trial for the accused.

Once again, got "proof"? Have you ever even been part of a voir dire process? if not, how exactly do you know anything about it?

Sure, and I see it occur all the time in Courts Martial and admin board procedure. Please try to remember I am a legal professional. :lol:

Show me where it states that the typical clueless American has the right to serve on jury, especially in an important criminal case that uses voir dire specially to weed out the incompetent and the bigoted .

I guess where we differ is that I dont think your general citizen of the USA 'incompetent and bigoted' by default. :rolleyes:

Something tells me that Mobboss would never make it past the voir dire process. At least the one which I participated seemed to be quite interested in kicking the "law and order" crowd right out.

Actually, having been called a number of times, I claimed military exclusion for training purposes.

But to be honest, your're completely ignorant of whether I would make it past voir dire or not.

I'm glad I wasn't put in a position where I had to gauge the morality of the law. It was difficult enough finding someone guilty of what I consider to be a very serious felony. If it had been a drug-related case or one where the death penalty might be involved, I would have tried to get myself excluded.

Ah...so you did (allegedly) make the cut. No wonder there is some elitism in your opinion about the average person serving on a jury. :lol:

I doubt you would make it past voir dire.

Serves once on a jury and is now an expert on voir dire. :lol: Bottom line, if you want to get yourself cut, you can; but if you want to serve, just be honest. Selection differs from case to case and utterly dependent upon those lawyers making the selections. For example, if you or someone close to you had been raped odds are you would be cut from a case involving rape because of potential personal bias. But you might be selected for a case involving drugs for instance. But you never know what case you may be screened for prior to being put into the pool.

Its a learning experience that I think everyone should go through at least once.

No one will ask you how smart you are during voire dire.

Here is truth. :goodjob:
 
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