Who will be released next week? (28/08 - 03/09)

[SMcM]

Why have so many voted Arabia?

 

[BrokenBokken]

Why have so many voted Arabia?

Because I'm expecting a civ with religion that is not European

 

[shyPiano]

Why have so many voted Arabia?

Not as many as Rome!

My guesses why people voted Arabia so much:

• Spain has a religious focus, and Firaxis might want to reveal more religious civs next.
• That 2K_China person said the next First Look video will be a religious civ, and Arabia is, thus, a likely candidate.

Of course, both of these would also apply to India, but CivFanatics doesn't seem to consider India when thinking of religious civs for some reason.

 

[Sansa_Stark]

Why have so many voted Arabia?

Last 2 releases were European civs, I guess this time they go for something else. Also, with some minor exceptions, they seem to follow real life relevance and gaming market sizes. With Scythia already out, I expect them to postpone Kongo/Sumeria for now and go for India/Arabia now. So, like I said before, Arabia now and Russia next

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

If you expect a civ that we know the most things about; that would be India, Rome, and Norway. If you expect a civ we know the least about; that would be Russia and Sumeria.

 

[ButtBillionaire]

I voted for Norway simply out of hope, I don't think it's likely they'll be the next civ to get a First Look.

But then again, I never really thought Norway appearing in Civ 6 was 100% likely.

 

[Matthew.]

Why have so many voted Arabia?

Just a hunch.

 

[SMcM]

Because I'm expecting a civ with religion that is not European

That could just as easily be India though. And we saw their unique unit a long time ago now.

 

[BrokenBokken]

That could just as easily be India though. And we saw their unique unit a long time ago now.

It could, but I think people think of Arabia as religious much more quickly than India in the western world whether that is fair or not and it's in the developers interests to give the masses what they would commonly associate with a civ.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I think India and Arabia are likely, but India could also get a housing bonus, they'd fit it the most, especially with Stepwell Unique Improvement, so India might not be religious at all (despite being the home of at least 3 religions)

 

[SJSerio]

It could, but I think people think of Arabia as religious much more quickly than India in the western world whether that is fair or not and it's in the developers interests to give the masses what they would commonly associate with a civ.

That could just as easily be India though. And we saw their unique unit a long time ago now.

They both could be religious. They would each have their own take on it and likely have a supplement that sets them apart.

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[BrokenBokken]

They both could be religious. They would each have their own take on it and likely have a supplement that sets them apart.

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They could, but I think the average person's perception makes Arabia synonymous with religion where as it isn't the firs thing they think of with India. Thus if it turns out they aren't both religious then I feel it's more likely that Arabia is then India. So if I expect a religious civ to be next Arabia has higher odds even if only slightly.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm hoping one religious civ gets a bonus to Theological Combat.

 

[SMcM]

It could, but I think people think of Arabia as religious much more quickly than India in the western world whether that is fair or not and it's in the developers interests to give the masses what they would commonly associate with a civ.

Well, no one could look at Saudi, Qatar, UAE, etc. and claim those were not exremely religious. They take the book at its word, with completely literal interpretation, and come down like a ton of bricks on any dissent. From the sounds of things, the general population approves of this, but then that observation may not be at all fair, so don't hold me to that.

But India has a more historical connection to religion, with Hinduism being by a long way the oldest of the 'world religions'. Whereas giving Arabia a religious flavor might be taken poorly by some due to the sort of religious practices they associate with leaders of that region, religion in India is less controversial to the rest of the world (though there are lesser known problems there too; some still practice witch hunting there ).

They both could be religious. They would each have their own take on it and likely have a supplement that sets them apart.

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I think that Arabia would likely not be religious for political reasons. Arabia as a religion based Civ could be seen as stereotyping, even if it would seem logical when looking at the Arabian pensinsula today.

I voted for Norway simply out of hope, I don't think it's likely they'll be the next civ to get a First Look.

But then again, I never really thought Norway appearing in Civ 6 was 100% likely.

How about next time you vote for what you consider likely instead !

I am also interested to see Norway though.

 

[BrokenBokken]

Well, no one could look at Saudi, Qatar, UAE, etc. and claim those were not exremely religious. They take the book at its word, with completely literal interpretation, and come down like a ton of bricks on any dissent. From the sounds of things, the general population approves of this, but then that observation may not be at all fair, so don't hold me to that.

But India has a more historical connection to religion, with Hinduism being by a long way the oldest of the 'world religions'. Whereas giving Arabia a religious flavor might be taken poorly by some due to the sort of religious practices they associate with leaders of that region, religion in India is less controversial to the rest of the world (though there are lesser known problems there too; some still practice witch hunting there ).

I completely agree with you, but I don't think that's the common perception. If I ask random people to tell me something about Arabia, I'm sure they will talk of their religion. If I ask random people about to tell me something about India I bet they'll talk about the number of people there. I think they will always try to encapsulate peoples gut reactions about a civ where applicable.

 

[SJSerio]

I think that Arabia would likely not be religious for political reasons. Arabia as a religion based Civ could be seen as stereotyping, even if it would seem logical when looking at the Arabian pensinsula today.

But the same could be said that any characterizations of any civilization could be considered stereotyping... Good or bad. Then you might as well remove historical civs altogether and create fictional civs... But then they will be based on historical civs, so that would be stereotyping.

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[Ebrim]

I think that Arabia would likely not be religious for political reasons. Arabia as a religion based Civ could be seen as stereotyping, even if it would seem logical when looking at the Arabian pensinsula today.

The transition of Arabs from a semi-nomadic peripheral people into a major player on the world stage is heavily intertwined with religion. I mean we could also argue that the Mongols could well be known as a culture-based civ but at the end of the day that's really not what defined their "big moment".

If we end up with Saladin, as seems likely, I think he'd be far less of an aggressive religious civ than Felipe though. I'd expect some sort of linked religious spread and trade UA coupled with more "defensive" attributes and maybe a bonus for attacking/liberating cities with a same-religion majority.

 

[pholtz]

I voted Rome, because I remember reading that Rome was most popular in these poles, and I wouldn't want to go against the trend

 

[AntoineS]

It could, but I think people think of Arabia as religious much more quickly than India in the western world whether that is fair or not and it's in the developers interests to give the masses what they would commonly associate with a civ.

True... well technically India today is preceived more as a spiritual than religious country (depsite the Hindu cast system), while the Arab world is obviosuly perceived as highly religious since religion defines, or at the very least partially shapes up in many cases, the strucutre of the various arab societes

 

[AntoineS]

The transition of Arabs from a semi-nomadic peripheral people into a major player on the world stage is heavily intertwined with religion. I mean we could also argue that the Mongols could well be known as a culture-based civ but at the end of the day that's really not what defined their "big moment".

If we end up with Saladin, as seems likely, I think he'd be far less of an aggressive religious civ than Felipe though. I'd expect some sort of linked religious spread and trade UA coupled with more "defensive" attributes and maybe a bonus for attacking/liberating cities with a same-religion majority.

Agreed... I could see him having some sort of holy war bonus linked with the liberating cities bonus, though... after all it is him that defeated Guy de Lusignant at the battle of Hattin...