Who would you bring back from history?

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I would bring back Trudeau. So he can save the Liberals party from turning blue.

and see what an abomination they have become, because his high minded ideals have only resulted in a cynical belief that the majority of Canadians are incapable of thinking correctly. The Liberals appointed their pet Supreme Court Judges to set their version of the rules of morality, draft a constitution, and protect us (them) from ourselves (us). But then again he knew this before he died. And you don't have to bring him back - his son is Trudeau.

EDIT: I don't really mean to rain on anyone's political affiliation, but I have my reasons. They must have done some things right, or you wouldn't have yours.
 
We decided that countries seek to ensure their own security first and then to increase their own power. What the US does with its work in the 3rd world constitutes increasing its own power, and so we can safely assume that they want as much power as they can get; ie world domination.

And the second bit is true.

BACK ON TOPIC: I would bring back Elvis Presley now.
Please don't tell people that I've concluded things I haven't.
 
and see what an abomination they have become, because his high minded ideals have only resulted in a cynical belief that the majority of Canadians are incapable of thinking correctly. The Liberals appointed their pet Supreme Court Judges to set their version of the rules of morality, draft a constitution, and protect us (them) from ourselves (us). But then again he knew this before he died. And you don't have to bring him back - his son is Trudeau.

EDIT: I don't really mean to rain on anyone's political affiliation, but I have my reasons. They must have done some things right, or you wouldn't have yours.

The reasons that I wanted him back.
He keep Canada together by defeating the Quebec separatists. He defend the newly implemented universal health care and regional development programs.
He also implemented many procedural reforms, to make Parliament and the Liberal caucus meetings run more efficiently. I believe that the Constitution is more efficient than the Bills of Rights. Since the Bill of Rights it has very limited scope, it raither easily for Parliament to amend it. But i would agree that the constitution does have some problems.

I aware of Justin, it does not mean that he is great as he's father is.
 
The reasons that I wanted him back.
He keep Canada together by defeating the Quebec separatists. He defend the newly implemented universal health care and regional development programs.
He also implemented many procedural reforms, to make Parliament and the Liberal caucus meetings run more efficiently. I believe that the Constitution is more efficient than the Bills of Rights. Since the Bill of Rights it has very limited scope, it raither easily for Parliament to amend it. But i would agree that the constitution does have some problems.

I aware of Justin, it does not mean that he is great as he's father is.

Check. Believe me I am not politically affiliated. You have some points. On one point though - I think the new government has still done more for unity than the liberals in the last referendum fiasco - they gained more votes than the liberals in Quebec. Quebec's separatism is supported by the fear their traditions and culture are under siege, Trudeau and Chretien kept them in by continuing to feed expensive 'bribes'. The liberals actually left us a legacy of appeasement to many special interests.
(I hope) the new government is providing an example of common sense, and the preservation of our way of life, that will appeal to people in the maritimes and Quebec as well as western Canada. But I really don't like what's happening with the urban vote in the 3 biggest metropolises. I don't think bringing anyone back could fix Canada's deep divisions and problems - its going to take some inspired leadership. I liked both Trudeau and Chretien by the way, but their time had come. Too much time in power had created a bureaucracy of liberal minded agendas piggy-backing on the party's basic success of the last 45 years without any effective check, (-8 for Mulroney, maybe thats why some people still vote Liberal);)
EDIT: in this respect we could learn from the US - who elect their judges. Something Harper actually supports.

Back to the topic: lets bring back Wolf and Montcalm so they can have a serious debate we will all have to listen to that will resolve these differences. I doubt either of them will be very sympathetic to the mess we are in. Yeah, and lets add Tecumseh, a native Canadian patriot, to make it a tri-party alliance. Failing that they can finish the battle they started 250 years ago, but did not live to see the end of.
 
Sorry, can you explain it a bit better?
All nations act in their own perceived self-interests - or at least, their leaders' perceived self-interests. The first of these self-interests is survival - all nations wish to survive. There are a few exception to this, but only in situations like that of Kosovo, where a nation actually wants to be part of a greater whole. Very rare.

The second is the pursuit of power. This is related to survival, because the more power one has the more likely one is to survive. Survival is by far the more important of the two though, which is why certain states have intentionally limited their own power in history - a good example is Bismarck's refusal to take territory from Austria at the end of the Six Weeks' War - in order to avoid an alliance against them.

The USSR's actions in the Cold War were motivated first by survival, then by power. There was also an ideological component, but this was secondary. After all, Russia routinely supported groups that actively opposed communists to the point of slaughtering them, such as the Kuomintang in China. The USSR took control of Eastern Europe in order to have a buffer zone between itself and any subsequent Western assault, understandably so, considering the war with Germany. It also took more territory it didn't need, such as Albania, because it increased their power, but it was willing to let these territories leave its sphere as they were no threat. Austria's another example.

The USSR's actions in the Third World were motivated by similar concerns. Stalin intentionally stayed out of the Middle East after the Iranian adventure in order to avoid antagonising the much stronger US, but his successors quickly seized the opportunity to gain allies from among the disgruntled Arab states in the area, Egypt most of all. This policy was based on ensuring Russian access to resources, in much the same way that the US and Britain interfered in the Middle East to gain resources. They did the same throughout Africa, Asia, and when the opportunity presented itself, Latin America. They were not doing this to seek world domination, but simply for their own survival and to protect and expand their interests.

Now, if a state actually had a chance of achieving world domination, they might take it. But not if the risks outweighed the rewards. The Mongols are a good example, they stopped their conquests when the risks of continued expansion and warfare outweighed the potential benefits.
 
After all, Russia routinely supported groups that actively opposed communists to the point of slaughtering them, such as the Kuomintang in China.

It also took more territory it didn't need, such as Albania, because it increased their power, but it was willing to let these territories leave its sphere as they were no threat. Austria's another example.

This policy was based on ensuring Russian access to resources, in much the same way that the US and Britain interfered in the Middle East to gain resources. They did the same throughout Africa, Asia, and when the opportunity presented itself, Latin America. They were not doing this to seek world domination, but simply for their own survival and to protect and expand their interests.

The Mongols are a good example, they stopped their conquests when the risks of continued expansion and warfare outweighed the potential benefits.

I have a few points you may want to consider, Sharwood. The Soviets only supported the KMT (as Nationalists against Europeans and the Chinese Imperialists) until about 1930, Mao's rebellion and removal to Jiangxi. After that, I think the KMT were on Stalin's shitlist. I suppose both western and communist ideologies claimed they needed to 'liberate' the other, but it was a fairly well known part of their creed in the inter-war years that they had a mission to free the proletariat worldwide, at least that's what they wanted their people to believe, via propaganda. I thought they gave up on the occupation of Vienna and eastern Austria due to some political pressure, it just wasn't justified to divide Austria as well as Germany. I'm not sure they needed any resources in the middle east, Russia was an oil exporting nation, but as you said it gave them more global traction to be on the good side of the Arabs.

The Mongols quit Europe because according to tradition they had to return to elect a new leader. Otherwise there seemed to be no limit to their military ambition, but afterwards it had as much to do with settling down and establishing dynasties over their conquests, as barbarians in Europe did also, and quickly lost their edge, rather than an analysis of risks vs. benefits.
 
I'm sure the local Mongol commanders were more interested in maintaining their own power than expanding it in risky fashions. Contrary to popular belief, they weren't invincible.

Russia supported the Kuomintang off and on, depending on how well the Commies were doing at the time. They even supported them after WWII for a short while, until they realised who was coming out on top.

As for Austria, Stalin took Vienna and unilaterally placed Karl Renner in charge. As a moderate socialist, he was acceptable to the Western Allies, so they acknowledged him as the head of the provisional government as well, meaning that Austria was united under a single nation-wide government pretty much from the start, whereas Germany was always split. It was also treated as a victim of Nazi agression, rather than a willing part of the Reich.

The Soviets were also interested in neutralising Germany, so a neutral Austria was in their interests as a type of prototype for how successful a neutral Germany would be. Obviously West Germany in the US camp was tremendously upsetting for Russia, as well as a major strategic imbalance.
 
OK - kudos on the Austria question. They became non-aligned, like Finland, and kept their independence. I did not know Stalin was still hedging his bets with the KMT, after the Russians handed all that war materiel over to the PLA in Manchuria. As for the Mongols, once the generations of Genghis Khan and his sons passed on, it was easier living as an aristocracy in a slave state, though let's not forget the campaigns of Kublai Khan against Japan and SE Asia, which they lost, and the various offensives of the Ilkhanate and Golden Horde, before the time of Tamerlane.
 
One global government might be great for humanity. Let's have Napoleon conquer the world, then we can kill him and bring back Marcus Aurelius to rule us. Let's just not accidentally hand things over to his son.

Bearing the weight of Rome was trying enough -- you want to force the world on him as well? (Have you read his Meditations?)

On a related note, I'd like to meet Robert Ingersoll or Epictetus. (Ingersoll being the family man that he was, though, I wouldn't want to make him live in a world where his children and grandchildren were long dead.)
 
One global government might be great for humanity. Let's have Napoleon conquer the world, then we can kill him and bring back Marcus Aurelius to rule us. Let's just not accidentally hand things over to his son.
Marcus Aurelius was mediocre to competent. Couldn't you get a genial administrator instead? :(
 
Marcus Aurelius was mediocre to competent. Couldn't you get a genial administrator instead? :(
First name that popped into my head that was seen as some sort of god-like benevolent ruler. The second was Perikles, but I knew you'd immediately jump on that. Damn, can't believe I didn't think of Asoka.
 
So first have Asoka conquer the world as his pre-Buddhist and then have him have a revelation and let him rule the world as a Buddhist.
 
So first have Asoka conquer the world as his pre-Buddhist and then have him have a revelation and let him rule the world as a Buddhist.
Sounds like a plan. You start warming up the Delorean.
 
Maybe, but I don't want to spend my life meditating and refusing to eat meat. Not a good idea.
He didn't force his subjects to do that, so we're cool.
 
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