Who's the greatest general?

[privatehudson]

burgos ? toulouse ? quatre Bras ?

I'm not sure how either Toulouse or Quatre Bras are being claimed as British defeats.

 

[ohcrapitsnico]

In terms of military mind, I would definitely vote for Genghis Khan...

Considering the limited resources and primitive weapondry he had, the number of victories he chalked up and the expanse of his empire is impressive.

Even his efforts in uniting the constantly warring tribes of the Gobi desert is an achievement.

I wouldn't say primitive weaponry, they had advanced bows which is really all they needed on the battlefield. Though Genghis united to a degree he did a bit of genocide namely the Tatars. So uniting by killing everyone isn't really uniting.

 

[cybrxkhan]

^he also possibly used primitive gunpowder weapons, i have heard.

 

[PredatorFett]

I wouldn't say primitive weaponry, they had advanced bows which is really all they needed on the battlefield. Though Genghis united to a degree he did a bit of genocide namely the Tatars. So uniting by killing everyone isn't really uniting.

No, it's just lowering standards. But hey, at least it worked out nicely.

 

[aronnax]

^he also possibly used primitive gunpowder weapons, i have heard.

My sister doesnt like Genhis because he stoled technologies. That and because he had ugly clothes....

 

[mr_lewington]

and a club foot

 

[FriendlyFire]

^he also possibly used primitive gunpowder weapons, i have heard.

For crying out loud read the previous Khan threads.
Sophiscated gunpoweder weapons were used by chinese engineers employed as slave or auxilary forces. No chinese engineers made it to europe though they made it as far as Russia. These weapons were almost exclusively used during seiges rather then pon the battlefield.

reminder that large numbers of mongols still had very limited amour and weapons due to limited metal supplies. Many used arrow heads with bone, wore basic harbark (sp?) amour. Estimated that about 50% of the mongols were properly armed.

 

[cybrxkhan]

^i know. i said he used them, not use them in battle. I meant in seiges, as you said above.

 

[mr_lewington]

BOOM! down goes the great wall

 

[cybrxkhan]

^he didn't even need that. they just literally went through the big gaping hole already there.

 

[mr_lewington]

o.O what happened?

 

[cybrxkhan]

the wall then was not exactly the wall we see today - the wall we see today was built by the Ming Dynasty.

anyhow, the less impressive wall (but still formidable) one that stood at Genghis' time, i think, was neglected or something. anyhow, if you look at a map of the wall, it isn't hard to see easy holes to go through.

 

[Zhuge_Liang]

Nope. The wall we see today is built by the Mao Ze Dong.

 

[SeleucusNicator]

I don't think it's really fair to put Genghis Khan on this poll. He's in a different league than the others, just based on the sheer amount of land he conquered.

Out of the remaining ones, I would say I respect Frederick the Great the most.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I had this Nine-star Swiss Halberdier once, with max dread and like five things giving plus to troop morale. Man was beast. Lived to be like 104.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I am not sure about Genghis Khan.Was he really a General?Have the mongol armies fought with a tactic?IMHO "go,kill,crush,burn and rape" command is not enough to call a man as general

But I will accept,"Genghis was the greatest Casanova" argument.

Yes, he is credited with creating a number of tactics, most notably mastering the false retreat.

 

[Stuck in Pi]

I went with Genghis Khan, he conquered at least half of the world known by him. Also, Wellington lost to Andrew Jackson in America!! He definetely is not one of the greatest general. He lost his patient, should've bombarded Jackson by sea, than attacked. Just sayin'.

 

[pawpaw]

Wellington lost to Andrew Jackson in America!!

Come again?

 

[jujubean]

YOU didnt put hannibal he was amazing he never lost a battle, but the reason cartage ( not hannaibal) lost the war was because the home city didnt supply him

 

[pawpaw]

YOU didnt put hannibal he was amazing he never lost a battle

Zama comes to mind.