Why Can't People in MP Play anything but Dom?

[CPL_Yoshi]

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[Lily_Lancer]

When you're leading your opponent in domination, it's a wise strategy to take them down. Even 5T faster on Dom can make an absolute different game. If you're 5T slower in Stirrup, you possibly lose half of your cities instantly while leaving the remaining half cannot defend for yourself.

 

[morikahn]

Couple reason's why I think Domination victories dominate the game:

Map Size
Too many people too close together on too small of a map.

Like other posters have said here, this exacerbates the situation when one person is a little ahead of an adjacent player on military tech. They can quickly attack and the loss of a city or two ends the defender's game. Also, they do not have to worry too much about over-extending their forces. Its only a couple turns back to their home territory.

On a larger map, with much more space between civilizations, a war of aggression could leave you defenseless against another player. Obviously, in team games this wouldn't matter.


Culture, Religion, and Science victories
They are 'end game' objectives while you can win a Domination victory at any time.

The game developers should have altered how these mechanics work in multiplayer to make them achievable at any age. Currently, to achieve a religious, science, or cultural victory requires a really long game of people doing very little but managing their own civs.

Possible solution

1. Culture: each relic, writing, music, or art piece is worth 1 tourist point. First person to a set amount, say 10, wins (alterable is game settings). Spies stealing art pieces would be a big deal then. I'd also make having a natural or man-made wonder in your territory count as a tourist point.
2. Science: each age could have a scientific victory condition. If a civ is able to complete this scientific victory before any other civilization reaches the next scientific age.. they win.
3. Religion: great prophets aren't expended when they create a religion. They need to be kept alive to keep the religion alive. Be the last person with a great prophet and you win. Could add a spy 'assassination' mission. This victory condition becomes invalid after someone enters the Industrial Era. This would put an interesting twist on the player that never established a religion... he or she would have to try to keep OTHER player's great prophets alive.

 

[GunslingerCiv]

The problem is how often does that actually happen (where players are at similar skill levels)? There isn't some ranked matchmaking on offer in Civ, with bronze league players playing other bronze players. So even if there 4 equally good players in a game, whoever conquers the 2 weaker players now has a big advantage over the remaining 3 opponents. Unless people are familiar with who they are playing with, chances are they have no idea who's good and who's not. I think almost every random public FFA with significant skill imbalances should or could end in a domination win.

It sounds to me like you might just be tired of fighting war after war every game and are looking to build stuff in peace. If that's the case I'd suggest focusing more on the subject of the best ways to defend, dissuading people from attacking you, defending with a minimum viable force while continuing to econ, etc. You won't ever be able to control what other people do and how they play, but you can still beat them with a non-domination strategy.

We have a ranked ladder, with the best players in the world currently competing everyday vs one another. Premier games amoung top ranked players is happening, and you're likely to see 2-3 a week. We had a game the other night go to a science victory with the top two turns away from one another to do it. Nail biting.

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[King Lewie XIV]

I'm in the CivPlayers league on Discord. I recently played an ALL Peace game and it was fun. I'd like to play more of these types of games. I'd say come back on the Discord and call for the kind of games u want. I have done this for duels and have found many duels. Another player likes Teamers and he has been requesting them for awhile now. Now there are more teamers.

 

[viper_1986_1986]

This is what i have always seen, people always went for dom in civ3, civ4, and civ5, Never bothered to play public games of civ6 yet.
But even back in civ3 i was able to win with culture or other types. The big thing is you STILL have to go military to a degree. Being the defender gives you a HUGE advantage, as long as you know where the attacks will be coming from.

As i said i can't speak for public players, but in my circle, when i am trying to win space, i still go 1/2 army 1/2 sci. I still build encampments, walls, and LOTS of ranged units to defend. Just be ready to move units around and get your D up! This was actually wayyy easier on civ3 since railroads were 0 movement cost, but aerodomes make it pretty do-able in civ6 as well. A few forts also can help, or even defensive nukes. Seems to have worked in the few dozen or so games i have played. We generally play with AI on a mixture of diety and immortal. Human players on diety.