Why do people drink?

october

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Pardon me while I vent here a little bit. Call me a conservative, call me a member of the religious right, call me what you will, but I invite thoughts on this topic that bothers me.

I wish I could understand the fascination with drinking alcohol, especially beer among people aged 18-30. These people value beer more than water it seems, and water is necessary for your life. I live in a college town and I know there is partying, but why is alcohol necessary to have a good time? When I went to college I got drunk once, but it was accidental. It sucks and I never want to repeat the experience. Now I am a college graduate working at a company in my field, with lots of so called "professionals." However, some of these people are less mature than college students with their weekend antics. We have this one guy who tries to party every weekend and then comes in with his stories about how drunk he got, how drunk other people got, how they tried to get home, how much they could not remember, etc. I was in the break room listening to a 30 year old woman talking about a party she had this past weekend. She said that one of the people on the day shift who is about 40 years old probably, came to the party and got totally trashed and threw up all over her carpet. Then in the same breath she said it was a good time. I muttered "not for the poor guy who threw up on your rug" as I walked out of the room. I was disgusted. How can that be fun? And I heard another guy talking about how he could not remember how he got home. I said "why don't you remember?" He said "because I drank myself into a stupor."

Then there is the issue of drunk driving. These people never learn. It is very easy to say when you are sober that you'll never try to drive a car drunk. But when you actually get drunk, it's a whole different thought process. You think you can do anything and it's no big deal, and your inhibitions go down. You don't think like you do when you are sober, so your risk of trying to do dangerous things like that is higher. These people don't care and have no respect for anyone else, making loud noise at night in apartment complexes where other people are trying to get some sleep. But you don't have to be driving to be a danger to others. I need more than my fingers to count the times I drove to work down the street with all the bars on it and had to dodge college students that were recklessly walking or falling into the street. They are a mortal danger to themselves and others even if not behind the wheel. And sadly, I believe this grim picture is not going to change as long as people keep looking for escape and answers in the bottom of the bottle.
 
Why did Jesus claim that the wine served at the Last Supper had turned into his blood? Why did he not just use water or juice?

Drinking is a good way for many people to relax and it is more easily available than most drugs (and legal). It is the abuse of alcohol in all the cases you mentioned (and millions more across the globe each day) that is the flip side. I see that drink is a good thing if used sensibly, but many people are unable to do this, which is a shame. However, not all drinkers should suffer the stigma of those idiots who cannot control themselves. Such people will put themselves into the same situations whatever they abuse, but drink happens to be the easiest way.
 
True dat, Duke of York.

I did not mean to mislabel all drinkers. A vast majority of them are abusers of varying degrees. This is what I am upset about. I drink myself. I follow the Bible, and the Bible is replete with warnings against abuse of alcohol, not general consumption of it.

Though, drinking an alcoholic beverage for me is not much more relaxing than drinking something else, so I don't see its appeal unless you get drunk, which is something that people should not do. Drinking with the purpose of getting drunk is a sign that something is missing in your life.

For the record, my favorite drink is Bailey's Irish Cream. I drink that once in a while. Sometimes I get a Mudslide at Applebee's....that is basically a vanilla milkshake with khalua in it.
 
Alcohol undoubtedly relaxes you, although it is downright stupid to want relax oneself so far as to totally lose control over one's actions. If other people are having a drink then having one too will put you at ease and make you feel as if you are fitting in better with the rest. This may not be true but at least you are easing the pressure on yourself by making yourself think that it is the case. This does not only apply to drink, but for me it is the prime example.

For the record, I'm a real ale buff. :D
But no, I don't follow the stereotype of the real ale drinker!
 
You have a beard???

I don't drink much or often...I prefer to keep my head and reactions...what I don't understand is why people make a big deal of getting drunk...it is so simple, you pay your money you drink and there you have it.
 
Posted above by Kitten of Chaos
You have a beard??

:lol: Erm, no. I just said that I don't follow the stereotypes! I do own a single Marks & Spencer jumper though - but it's a black round-necked one. Not one of those huge furry things with odd green and brown patterns on. My dad wears one of those jumpers but I've never ever seen him have more than what he can safely drive home with. Even when we're not in the car. He enjoys continental (that means European for all non-Brits) lagers when we're abroad, but never has more than one.
Where are you from october? What is the legal limit for drinking and driving there?
 
You should bear in mind that not so long ago it was safer to drink beer than it was to drink water. Ale was given to children for the same reason. Thus they would have developed a tolerance for it quite unrelated to the first teenage binge that often happens now.

The Christian's use of wine in communion is a pale shadow of the use of alcohol in my religion, heathenry. Ritual drinking has been a part of our heathen religious practices for 2000 years or more and forms part of every rite we perform. More often than not we use mead rather than ale.

I question the idea that drinking to get drunk is a sign that something is missing from your life. It may be so, but is it any more a form of escapism than watching television? By the time a child has grown to adulthood he will have watched the television for 8 or more working years. Think of what you could have achieved during that time.
 
People that drink to get drunk frequently have underlying issues. Complete intoxication is a desperate attempt to escape the real world for awhile, or with young people, a desperate plea for attention (because its "cool").

Its acceptable and routine sort of stuff in college. Kids will be kids...but when adults do that? Geez, I find it pathetic.
 
Duke of York, I live in Pennsylvania, in the United States. It varies slightly from state to state, but generally you can drive when you are 16 and drink when you are 21.


Real wine is not used in church, at least not in any one I know. It's grape juice.
 
While there are variations, typically Catholic churches drink wine, non-catholic churches grape juice.

But, getting back to the point, drinking is perfectly fine as long as you don't reach the point of abuse or driving while drunk. Generally speaking - for those people who do not suffer from alchoholism - one experience with getting sick drunk is enough to condition a person to be wary of their tolerance. (It did for me!) It is a relaxing, social drink. In some cases (depending on an individual's taste) alchoholic drinks will taste better than non-alcoholic drinks. And it does make a nice, tipsy buzz.

You've just got to learn your tolerance. :crazyeyes
 
Thats right jumbo :)

Nothing cool about dry heaving all night.......alcohol is poison to the body after all:)

Nice to see another m******* round here jumbo
 
We'll most people drink because they want to party and relax (like some other people told already), and some do it to escape their dull lives. Their lives excists out of work and their home-life.
You got your church where you put your free time in, and other people (Like me) put in it in their computeres, other do it with their tv's and some others escape through means of movies or books.
Because be real everybody, what does modern man do all day, they work, go home, eat, watch tv go to sleep and then go back to work for five straight days. (I realy get sick from this now and then) and sometimes I escape to parting my head off, but not all weekends because I really get tired if I do this every weekend.
But other dont and do this every weekend, but ussually its a face they go through (And somethimes somebody doenst get out of this fase :D ).
Think about it some hunderd years ago, all we go to do was get food enough for a day and than your was ready to do want you want or someother thing to keep your family allive. So the stress on those people was much lesser than now a days.
So some people need to release this stress by means of alchohol or other substances. I dont say this is good, but its they way of our lives now adays.

Sorry for the spelling, iam still a bit stressed out from my own work :D :D :D
 
I am a lifer! (m*******) and proud of it. ;)

alcohol is just like any other mind-influencing drug, the consumption of it is so ingrained (pun intended) in society that any attempt at making it illegal has been and will be doomed to failure. I am a social drinker but I am starting to pale on imbibing any alcohol at all - but supposedly small amounts can be beneficial so... my jury is still at the bar debating the issue.
 
drake, I'm a recent m*******...came here for school (like quite a few others).

Yeah I know a couple of civ people that go to BU...none from harvard or mit though...don't think those boys have time for civ:)

I am a lifer! (m*******) and proud of it.

Not me! Soon as I have the money to buy a house I'm moving home (Maine) :)

and now....back to the topic........(sorry)
 
Originally posted by october
Pardon me while I vent here a little bit. Call me a conservative, call me a member of the religious right, call me what you will, but I invite thoughts on this topic that bothers me.

I wish I could understand the fascination with drinking alcohol, especially beer among people aged 18-30. These people value beer more than water it seems, and water is necessary for your life. I live in a college town and I know there is partying, but why is alcohol necessary to have a good time? When I went to college I got drunk once, but it was accidental. It sucks and I never want to repeat the experience. Now I am a college graduate working at a company in my field, with lots of so called "professionals." However, some of these people are less mature than college students with their weekend antics. We have this one guy who tries to party every weekend and then comes in with his stories about how drunk he got, how drunk other people got, how they tried to get home, how much they could not remember, etc. I was in the break room listening to a 30 year old woman talking about a party she had this past weekend. She said that one of the people on the day shift who is about 40 years old probably, came to the party and got totally trashed and threw up all over her carpet. Then in the same breath she said it was a good time. I muttered "not for the poor guy who threw up on your rug" as I walked out of the room. I was disgusted. How can that be fun? And I heard another guy talking about how he could not remember how he got home. I said "why don't you remember?" He said "because I drank myself into a stupor."

Then there is the issue of drunk driving. These people never learn. It is very easy to say when you are sober that you'll never try to drive a car drunk. But when you actually get drunk, it's a whole different thought process. You think you can do anything and it's no big deal, and your inhibitions go down. You don't think like you do when you are sober, so your risk of trying to do dangerous things like that is higher. These people don't care and have no respect for anyone else, making loud noise at night in apartment complexes where other people are trying to get some sleep. But you don't have to be driving to be a danger to others. I need more than my fingers to count the times I drove to work down the street with all the bars on it and had to dodge college students that were recklessly walking or falling into the street. They are a mortal danger to themselves and others even if not behind the wheel. And sadly, I believe this grim picture is not going to change as long as people keep looking for escape and answers in the bottom of the bottle.

Its a stimulating non ilegal drug, many people drink it to forget there problems, maybe only for a couple of hours but they like it just as much.
 
Originally posted by scorch


my guess is that is 'legal' :lol:


**** am i pissed off, i wrote a big long reply out, and the serverthingy ****ed up...


yeah i know, sorry, i just forgot it.
 
I feel moved to comment on the matter, as I am a self confessed problem drinker who is trying with difficulty to kick the habit.
Why do people drink? I cannot speak for anyone else, but for me it fills/filled a void in life, as well as the other obvious reasons as a social lubricant etc. In times of trouble, people sometimes need a friend or object to turn to, either to bock out their problems, or to make them more easy to understand. I've tried it, it great quanitities and times, for these reasons and others, but have ultimately found it wanting. For me, drink enhances my melancholia and makes me dwell on problems more.
Why then still do it?
Because it provided a temporary out. I'm not saying I'm the first ever to have issues, nor that mine are any heavier than others, but the culture one dwells in puts forth drink as the temporary solution.
Now, I have no answers, and I'm still a'tryin', but it is very easy to write off drinkers as weak people, who look for a crutch. But until you've been right to the depths of utmost despair and alienation, be careful in blanket judgements on others. We all have our little somewthing that gets us thru the night, but some are far more wrong and destructive than others.

Just consider for a moment why some people turn to drink or whatever. I know I've been there, and am still there to some extent. It is easy, it is soft, but sometimes, things do not present themsleves in any other way. I'm not about to spill all my guts on this board, as there are some key things that will always remain private for the sake of others, but there do come times when there doesn't see any other way, apart from writng yourself off, an gaining blessed oblivion for a few shortt hours.
It's harrowing to go there, as drink and other drugs make you look at parts of yourself you would not gaze upon normally, and it is frequently not nice to look at.
 
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