Swein Forkbeard
Nintendo Fan
Just want to know your opinion here.
Why do you stick to Civ2 and its exp packs?
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Rayxes
Chieftain
I can start with "It's already paid for".
And add that it's sufficiently versatile that it never gets stale.
And add that it's sufficiently versatile that it never gets stale.
Banach
Warlord
The simplest answer is - because I still get so much enjoyment out of it. As long as I still enjoy a game this much I keep playing it. One of it's best features is it's complexity - I can get SO engrossed in a game. I think that this is the principal reason so many people love it - It's a delightfully complex and engrossing strategy game that allows for multiple styles of play. Like Rayxes said, it helps that it's paid for (or, at worst, can be bought off ebay for $5).
Henrik
Emperor
Used to be becouse I disliked the changes in civ 3 so much (before the expansions they had basicly no modding support and literally no multiplayer). Both of these things are what I enjoyed about civ 2.
What kept me away was the fact that civ 3 changed so little, and expanded on the things I allready didn't like (like ICS instead of fixing it they thought the AI to do it too, granted a human will allways be better at it but that doesn't change the fact that it's both tedious and unrealistic).
With civ 4 however I have moved along and while I do play some civ 2 from time to time it's not much anymore
What kept me away was the fact that civ 3 changed so little, and expanded on the things I allready didn't like (like ICS instead of fixing it they thought the AI to do it too, granted a human will allways be better at it but that doesn't change the fact that it's both tedious and unrealistic).
With civ 4 however I have moved along and while I do play some civ 2 from time to time it's not much anymore
Nylan
Characters Welcome
Well, for one I can store the entire game on a flash drive. Other reasons include versatility, and the relatively faster gameplay. It's a different feel, a different system. I enjoy both games, but Civ2 was not rendered obsolete by the release of the sequels.
EdwardTking
Deity
There are a number of reasons why I still play Civ2.
(i) On a modern computer, it is very fast,
(ii) It is simple
(iii) I like the map generator, exploring is great fun
(iv) It can be minimised, so I can switch between it;
and other applications which is not easy with Civ3 or Civ 4.
(v) the graphics do not confuse the game play as much.
I tend to play ToT, multiple worlds versions.
(i) On a modern computer, it is very fast,
(ii) It is simple
(iii) I like the map generator, exploring is great fun
(iv) It can be minimised, so I can switch between it;
and other applications which is not easy with Civ3 or Civ 4.
(v) the graphics do not confuse the game play as much.
I tend to play ToT, multiple worlds versions.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Custom scenarios seem better for Civ2 than it's successors.. I don't play the standard campaign anymore.
Swein Forkbeard
Nintendo Fan
Would it be a good idea to play both Civ2 and Civ4?
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Only if you like both games, obviously.
Just want to know your opinion here.
Well I can tell you:
A, I stick to it out of necessity.
B, It's Reliable. (I've yet to have it crash in nearly 10 years of playing it)
C, It is still enjoyable to play.
D, Versatile for making mods with. Even without the source I can still do a hell of a lot to it myself and with other third party programs. A complete mod including a re-skin and new sound can be done in a day, so it's also quick and easy.
I own Civ 3 and 4, and they are both unplayable. I don't think I've ever played a full game on either of the newer ones because they crash so much. If I mod them they are even worse, they crash even more. I simply can't be bothered with games that companies can't be bothered to make work as they should.
These games should fly, my hardware is more than good enough. But they drop like bricks out of a plane.
Looks like I'll be playing Civ2 for a long time.
I reckon the game would last even longer if a way could be found to upgrade the graphics to 32bbp and proper 44khz stereo sound.
VoidStalker
Chieftain
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I love this game soooo much! I cannot even begin to describe my feelings when i discovered civ 3 had removed the ability to transform terrain. The graphics in civ 3 look better too be sure, but thats just eye candy. Civ two runs faster, plays better and lets me make changes to suit my play style.
One thing though:
Are there any mods that allow me to up the # of units/citys in a game? Had a great game going with 6 comps and we all had many cities and then....unit could not be built
That sucked, lol.
One thing though:
Are there any mods that allow me to up the # of units/citys in a game? Had a great game going with 6 comps and we all had many cities and then....unit could not be built
That sucked, lol.
Try bribing a battleship or transport with a spy on your transport. That'll crash it.
(I don't have all of the expansions, though)Try bribing a battleship or transport with a spy on your transport. That'll crash it.
That will be why then.
I've never really used spies in my games. Maybe if I were more espionage orientated I might have run into these bugs. Lucky me!
I still play all the civs. Each one provides me with a diffrent style of game while maintaining the core of series.
I still play Civ 2 because:
I really like the maps it comes up with, a good mix of small and large landmasses
I think ZoC adds a good element to combat that I miss in III and IV
As does losing whole stacks of Units in one battle if not careful I can live without this in III and IV bit I don't mind it in II
I think II got the corruption and waste levels right, III was way OTT, but I'm finding I like the soultion in IV, I still Play III but when I want to play a vast empire I go for II most of the time.
I like how trade and spys work in II, I don't mind the changes in III and IV but I sometimes wish they had found a use for caravans.
The advisers, I can't stress this enough "Give me more soldiers so they may sheth their swords in the beating hearts of your enemy" never gets old, even after 11 or so years of hearing it and who doesn't like to be told "all the world marvels at our superior intelect"
All the scenerios/variants with the expantions are just great, along with the user mods (thanks guys BTW)
Teraforming 'nuff said
in fact I agree with all the Civ II players so far. I'm still learning IV and I think it will see more play for me than III esp when BTS arrives in the post (that does look great) but I can't see that I will ever stop playing II, ever. Mind you I don't think I'll ever stop playing I , III or IV either its just some see more play than others.
I recommend picking up The Civilization Chronicles if you can get it at a good price, it has all games and expantions except Civ IV which it just has the vanilla game for, I even play Civ I now but for me thats just nostaliga, although its still a great game
I still play Civ 2 because:
I really like the maps it comes up with, a good mix of small and large landmasses
I think ZoC adds a good element to combat that I miss in III and IV
As does losing whole stacks of Units in one battle if not careful I can live without this in III and IV bit I don't mind it in II
I think II got the corruption and waste levels right, III was way OTT, but I'm finding I like the soultion in IV, I still Play III but when I want to play a vast empire I go for II most of the time.
I like how trade and spys work in II, I don't mind the changes in III and IV but I sometimes wish they had found a use for caravans.
The advisers, I can't stress this enough "Give me more soldiers so they may sheth their swords in the beating hearts of your enemy" never gets old, even after 11 or so years of hearing it and who doesn't like to be told "all the world marvels at our superior intelect"
All the scenerios/variants with the expantions are just great, along with the user mods (thanks guys BTW)
Teraforming 'nuff said
in fact I agree with all the Civ II players so far. I'm still learning IV and I think it will see more play for me than III esp when BTS arrives in the post (that does look great) but I can't see that I will ever stop playing II, ever. Mind you I don't think I'll ever stop playing I , III or IV either its just some see more play than others.
I recommend picking up The Civilization Chronicles if you can get it at a good price, it has all games and expantions except Civ IV which it just has the vanilla game for, I even play Civ I now but for me thats just nostaliga, although its still a great game
Ace
Emperor
I, usually, don't let the AI get to battleships, but with the latest updates Civ II does not crash when bribing battleships (althrough the cost is horrendous).
I loved Civ I, and Civnet, and considered Civ II an update to Civ I, still the same game. But civ III was so "different" that I took one look at it and stayed with Civ II and the dislike was so intense that I did not even buy Civ IV. Civ without spies and vans just is not Civ.
I loved Civ I, and Civnet, and considered Civ II an update to Civ I, still the same game. But civ III was so "different" that I took one look at it and stayed with Civ II and the dislike was so intense that I did not even buy Civ IV. Civ without spies and vans just is not Civ.
Anithraldur
Chieftain
Definitely the versatility and ease-of-editing factor for Civ II. Civ III et al just got too complicated. If Civ III had been, say, a hybrid of Civ II's customizability and Alpha Centauri's gameplay... things would have been different. As it stands though Civ III just had too much feature creep and Civ IV looked to be more of the same.
Civ II is partially a fun addictive game.
* It runs faster on my hardware.
* Easier time expanding my empire. (no price to pay)
* You can rush Wonders with money/caravan units.
* You can bribe enemy cities(except capital I think) with money if you're wealthy.
* There's a chance you get free cities or settlers from goody huts. (any difficulty level)
Civ III often has problem with level of corruption/waste (Cities that were far a way from capital city produces only one shield and trade)
* It cannot be played in windows mode.
* Any enemy cities I captured sometimes be deposed by higher enemy cultural influence.
* At least all your unit stacks cannot be destroyed by an enemy unit.
Civ IV might have nice 3D graphics, music, special effects and interface, however it still runs slowly on my PC.
* Expanding a huge empire had proven to be difficult in the early ages as if each cities require specific maintenance.
* AI aggressiveness could prove to be problematic depending on the level of difficulty.
* At least all city improvements doesn't require any maintenance and you can try out any civic combo instead of switching to a different government.
* It runs faster on my hardware.
* Easier time expanding my empire. (no price to pay)
* You can rush Wonders with money/caravan units.
* You can bribe enemy cities(except capital I think) with money if you're wealthy.
* There's a chance you get free cities or settlers from goody huts. (any difficulty level)
Civ III often has problem with level of corruption/waste (Cities that were far a way from capital city produces only one shield and trade)
* It cannot be played in windows mode.
* Any enemy cities I captured sometimes be deposed by higher enemy cultural influence.
* At least all your unit stacks cannot be destroyed by an enemy unit.
Civ IV might have nice 3D graphics, music, special effects and interface, however it still runs slowly on my PC.
* Expanding a huge empire had proven to be difficult in the early ages as if each cities require specific maintenance.
* AI aggressiveness could prove to be problematic depending on the level of difficulty.
* At least all city improvements doesn't require any maintenance and you can try out any civic combo instead of switching to a different government.
Gelion
Retired Captain
a few of mine:
- my first real addiction
- simple and logical. Technologies, units and improvements make sense!
- better than Civ3 and Civ1 (graphics, mechanics, etc.)
- a ton of great scenarios
- a ton of great scenarios simple to mod (and fix!)
- my first real addiction
- simple and logical. Technologies, units and improvements make sense!
- better than Civ3 and Civ1 (graphics, mechanics, etc.)
- a ton of great scenarios
- a ton of great scenarios simple to mod (and fix!)
