Why Is Youth So Left-Wing?

[aaron_burr]

@Centurion: Ya before the 60's was great. All Christian, and mostly homophobic

[SIGH] Those were the days... [/SIGH]

 

[Akka]

2: Pride, ignorance, and arrogance. Common human traits parents no longer discourage.

Already quite fun, but even better when followed by :

3: Improper cosmological training. Not understanding the basics of life, the universe, and everything will by necessity make people disordered.

Here is the most self-defeating argument I've yet to encounter

 

[aaron_burr]

Already quite fun, but even better when followed by :

Here is the most self-defeating argument I've yet to encounter

I'm afraid you'll need to explain that. What seems self-evident to you is somewhat murky to poor simple me.

 

[Akka]

I'm afraid you'll need to explain that. What seems self-evident to you is somewhat murky to poor simple me.

I would rather say you intentionnally pretend you don't understand.

But I'll play along : well, you come, show utter contempt toward the left, considering them unable to understand even basics for life and how the world works, telling they are disordered, and, overall, show ignorance and arrogance at a nearly cosmic level.
And then, the conclusion is that "pride, arrogance and ignorance" are traits that parents no longer discourage. Which is supposed to explain why young people are rather leftists. But this argument only ends up backfiring at the one who used it, as he's one of the first being concerned by it ^^

 

[GerrardCapashen]

But Anglophonic civilization has been on the downturn since the Stuarts were robbed of the throne, so I'm just impressed we've managed to make it this far.

If you like being a serf maybe....

 

[newfangle]

When someone has no experience in politics, they believe what everyone else around them believes.

When someone becomes a little experienced, they believe in the exact opposite as before.

When someone befores even more experienced, they ditch that partisan crap and start to think for themselves.

Most people remain in the first level.

 

[Archer 007]

The thing is New Labour and basically all of the Third Way governments do not follow the Socialist School, at least in the Economy.

If Antonio Gramsci was alive today, he would consider Tony Blair and even Schroeder to be "evil undercover capitalists sellouts".

My point is that Socialism, as en Economic school, is dead. Only people with little familiarity with economics claim to believe in it.

Very true comment. While I like many of the concept of socialism as a socialial force, its a stupid way to run an economy.

 

[Archer 007]

1: Our socialist schools necessarily teach socialist values.

Your joking, right?

 

[Azadre]

Okay, so you work, but you want everything handed to you by the state.

rm, you're a jerk,
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and there is no question about it. Had it of not been for 'hand outs' and 'free' education, I wouldn't be where I am today. My mom does drugs and doesn't work... There is never money in the household except a petty 150 child support. If it wasn't for our US 'hand outs', I would've lived on the streets because of my mother. I would've never had the vaccinations that I needed to go to school because I wouldn't have been able to afford them. Bash it all you freaking want, but until you live poor, you shut the hell up.

 

[Archer 007]

When someone has no experience in politics, they believe what everyone else around them believes.

When someone becomes a little experienced, they believe in the exact opposite as before.

When someone befores even more experienced, they ditch that partisan crap and start to think for themselves.

Most people remain in the first level.

Very good point.

 

[Archer 007]

rm, you're a jerk, and there is no question about it. Had it of not been for 'hand outs' and 'free' education, I wouldn't be where I am today. My mom does drugs and doesn't work... There is never money in the household except a petty 150 child support. If it wasn't for our US 'hand outs', I would've lived on the streets because of my mother. I would've never had the vaccinations that I needed to go to school because I wouldn't have been able to afford them. Bash it all you freaking want, but until you live poor, you shut the hell up.

You deserve a cookie for your good post.

 

[cgannon64]

They don't have to work for what they have.

That's amazing cynical, but I think its true.

 

[amadeus]

I want the opportunity to work and prosper in society...

With left-wing economic policies, plan on settling for something along the lines of "I want mediocre economic growth and a massive government system that will choke me from the womb to the tomb."

 

[North King]

I try to keep an open mind, and after listening to both sides of the argument, To keep it short:

The older of society is conservative because they have reached the point of financial security, and don't want to see their hard earned money go to others.

Youth do not have a lot of money starting out, hence, they wish for the means to get to financial security. That generally means left wing policies. Basically, what they want is simply a chance.

In essence, youth want a chance, something to build off of, the rest of society wants to keep what they have already built off of. Neither side is naieve or cynical. It is basically a situation of those who have what they want and dont want to lose money to those who don't have, and those who want to get there without being exploited by those who have.

I am sure this is going to draw a lot of fire from both sides. That's what you get when you try to take the middle ground... *runs for cover*

 

[amadeus]

rm, you're a jerk, and there is no question about it.

I yawn and I snore, you're starting to bore.

Had it of not been for 'hand outs' and 'free' education, I wouldn't be where I am today.

Where you are today? A home with no father and a mother that abuses drugs? Seriously, how is this supposed to argue against my point?

My mom does drugs and doesn't work...

I will say it again, she should be placed in either a treatment facility or a jail. It is not my fault she illegally purchased these drugs and then used them, so it is not my responsibility to fix any of your problems.

There is never money in the household except a petty 150 child support.

Of course there is no money. If nobody works, there is no money. This is fairly obvious to most people.

If it wasn't for our US 'hand outs', I would've lived on the streets because of my mother.

It sounds like you should hold your mother responsible, and not me.

I would've never had the vaccinations that I needed to go to school because I wouldn't have been able to afford them.

Again and again, how is your problem my problem? For your parents' failures, I have to compensate you for it? With the welfare system we have in this country, it's amazing any work at all gets done.

Bash it all you freaking want, but until you live poor, you shut the hell up.

Did the Bureau of Economic Analysis put my family's income up on their home page again? I'm obviously being facetious here, but how do you know that I am not poor?

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[amadeus]

That's amazing cynical, but I think its true.

There's nothing cynical about it, it's just the truth. How many teenage leftists are going to give away 80% of their income? Even then they wouldn't get it, because they'd just then demand their employer pay them more because they don't get any money.

Don't ask for a raise, demand your money back from the state.

 

[Azadre]

I yawn and I snore, you're starting to bore.



Where you are today? A home with no father and a mother that abuses drugs? Seriously, how is this supposed to argue against my point?



I will say it again, she should be placed in either a treatment facility or a jail. It is not my fault she illegally purchased these drugs and then used them, so it is not my responsibility to fix any of your problems.



Of course there is no money. If nobody works, there is no money. This is fairly obvious to most people.



It sounds like you should hold your mother responsible, and not me.



Again and again, how is your problem my problem? For your parents' failures, I have to compensate you for it? With the welfare system we have in this country, it's amazing any work at all gets done.



Did the Bureau of Economic Analysis put my family's income up on their home page again? I'm obviously being facetious here, but how do you know that I am not poor?

Listen rmsharpe, I have scored well enough on my ACT and have a high enough GPA to get into ANY school in the nation. Because of government handouts, I was able to get the medical attention I needed when it was needed and I was not forced to drop out of high school to support my mom as I got older. Seriously, you're sick. Had none reached out, I would be living on the streets and had no chance to make it. I seriously hate you more than you'll ever know right now.

 

[amadeus]

Listen rmsharpe, I have scored well enough on my ACT and have a high enough GPA to get into ANY school in the nation. Because of government handouts, I was able to get the medical attention I needed when it was needed and I was not forced to drop out of high school to support my mom as I got older.

You have a cute story, but it didn't answer or address my question, which is, why is anything that happens to you my responsibility?

See, you say the "government" helps you. That's not the case. Other people helped you. The government is people, and more importantly, people's money, other people's money.

Seriously, you're sick.

I seriously hate you more than you'll ever know right now.

That's totally irrational behavior. You wouldn't recognize me on the street, anywhere and under any circumstances.

 

[a space oddity]

"He, who is not a socialist in his youth, has no heart. If he persists in this as he grows up, he has no brain."
Modern Swedish saying.
(Crap translation by me.)

Wasn't Churchill accredited for that saying?

 

[Rammstein]

Because we care.