Will each Civ have a prefered religion?
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I think it will either be randomized or they will pick the first one available from the top of the list.
The second idea would be kind of a drag because then you always know (from experience) what order the religions will be founded in. For instance: The Celts will alway get Budhism, then the next one will be Christianity and then Confucism and so on. The same 5-6 religion names will always be in play (on a huge map).
The second idea would be kind of a drag because then you always know (from experience) what order the religions will be founded in. For instance: The Celts will alway get Budhism, then the next one will be Christianity and then Confucism and so on. The same 5-6 religion names will always be in play (on a huge map).
TheMarshmallowBear
Benelovent Chieftain of the Ursu Kingdom
Just so you know, I do not believe the religions listed there were listed in that order.
I do think that certain Civs might be leaning towards founding a certain religion if it's available, if it's not, it might go to the next available civ.
I also believe it was mentioned somewhere that Rexopolis isn't an actual Byzantine city.
I do think that certain Civs might be leaning towards founding a certain religion if it's available, if it's not, it might go to the next available civ.
I also believe it was mentioned somewhere that Rexopolis isn't an actual Byzantine city.
El Caballerion
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Even better would be around 30 non-religious icons that the player could choose from whenever the player founds a religion. These icons are just cool graphics that really make your religion unique (instead of having to bear a crucifix, star of david, etc.). Like, I could create 'Caballerionism' and have a cool clenched fist be my religion graphic. 
Also, I wish ciV had more customization options in the advanced menu for religion.... like, let's say you wanted to play a map where the religions were totally random and not based in reality. You could pull from a pool of 30 icons, set cool names for religions, match them up, and as you play the game, the ciVs would pull from THESE religious names instead of the ones chosen for you and the computer by default. That way, you could play a game as the Aztecs, Mayans, Iroquois, and Incans and not have to worry about them choosing the default religions that make no sense for them to choose!
Even for those games based in history... for example, it would help when playing a game involving ONLY European powers. Through an advanced menu setup, ou could go in beforehand and create Catholicism, Lutheran, Anglican, Anabaptist, Orthodox, etc. Sure you might have a country like Spain choose Anglicanism, but it makes more sense then having Rome choose Confucianism!
Also, I wish ciV had more customization options in the advanced menu for religion.... like, let's say you wanted to play a map where the religions were totally random and not based in reality. You could pull from a pool of 30 icons, set cool names for religions, match them up, and as you play the game, the ciVs would pull from THESE religious names instead of the ones chosen for you and the computer by default. That way, you could play a game as the Aztecs, Mayans, Iroquois, and Incans and not have to worry about them choosing the default religions that make no sense for them to choose!
Even for those games based in history... for example, it would help when playing a game involving ONLY European powers. Through an advanced menu setup, ou could go in beforehand and create Catholicism, Lutheran, Anglican, Anabaptist, Orthodox, etc. Sure you might have a country like Spain choose Anglicanism, but it makes more sense then having Rome choose Confucianism!
TheMarshmallowBear
Benelovent Chieftain of the Ursu Kingdom
I do agree with Caballerion, the only reason we have 11 icons is purely because the max civ is 22, and the max amount of religion is half of the playable civilizations.
But I really think it's a minor one. Who knows what they done, maybe they programmed the AI to rename relgiions in certian aspects.
But I really think it's a minor one. Who knows what they done, maybe they programmed the AI to rename relgiions in certian aspects.
MantaRevan
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I'm not sure if we can prove it yet, but I hope they put that in, because in civ 4 I got a little tired of Isabella always being Hindu or Buddhist.
Well yeah, this request is complete flavour, just as preferred religions were in Civ IV. I would certainly like to see AIs pick the historical religion where appropriate, while being free to pick crazy choices for myself.
It's just a nice little detail, it's not important. It wouldn't cost the devs anything.
Well, a simple solution, perhaps, could be adding something like 'true religions for civs' to the option menu in setup. With the option to check it on or off.
As for myself, what religion is attached to a civ does not matter much. None of them are going to be close to the real religion anyway. If they do resemble the religion, it will be based solely on chance.
TheMarshmallowBear
Benelovent Chieftain of the Ursu Kingdom
How did the "Choose yoru religion" option in Civ 4 worked with the AI?
They each had a religion that if you selected the "Choose religion to found..." option that they would pick. Ashoka would always choose Buddhism if he founded it, Isabella Christianity, Qin Shihuang Taoism, and so on. I actually enjoyed playing with that setting enabled but since it was once of many other settings I'm sure many never saw that.
With that option, Christianity was almost always one of the first ones founded just because so many leaders had that as their preferred religion. Judaism, on the other hand not having any leaders profess it in Civ IV was always last.
TheMarshmallowBear
Benelovent Chieftain of the Ursu Kingdom
Well, see it was once implemented, I do think it's very likely that each leader will have a order list of the 11 symbols. So e.g Byzantium will pick Christinaity first, but if Christianity isn't avialalb ehtey will pick Islam.. or Judaism... or whatever.
good points on both ends. I still hope it at least on option in advanced setup, that and culturally linked starting locations option(doubting this one.) Since it was in Civ IV and CIV is moving closer to resemble IV maybe will see choose religions, again if it's just an option it would not hurt anyone.
Since the player has the option to choose his 'favorite' religion I see no reason why the AI Civs would not.
Since the player has the option to choose his 'favorite' religion I see no reason why the AI Civs would not.
TheMarshmallowBear
Benelovent Chieftain of the Ursu Kingdom
Isn't Culturally linked starting locations generally Starting Bias, which I believe you can check in Advanced Set up?
fuzzatron717
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Maybe its completely random like choosing a name out of a hat.
It does get complicated though when it comes to the Asian empires, who were more syncretic... For example, Wu Zetian utilized Confucianism in the administration of the Chinese Empire, but she was personally a Buddhist first (she had also been a nun for some time before becoming a consort). So which one would the game developers pick? A similar quandary exists for Sejong.
My guess is that the developers will sidestep these issues and just not implement such a system in G&K. A shame, because it would be cool if they did.
gunnergoz
Cat Herder
Frankly, I'd be just as happy if they made up names for the religions instead of using existing religion's names. That would avoid a lot of hassle and silliness about "correct" religions, "matching religions with countries" and all that folderol. Given that religions in the game are just a flavor or enhancement to gameplay and not an actual philosophy, that would make more sense to me.
MantaRevan
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Maybe they could base things off of civilization, not leader. Being a Buddhist nun in a Confusist court wouldn't be an issue if they just prioritized by historical popularity.
Bakspatel
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Though I think you have a cool idea I think it is not practical. There's currently about 4000 existing beliefs (no longer followed beliefs not included!), it would be one heck of a job to search a bunch of them out and include them in the game.
Adding a 'Religion bias', similar to location? That would be pretty cool, but I do not really see it happening. The starting bias can have quite an influence on a civ, religion not because the whole system besides the names is random.
Yes, but religion will vary so much, unlike CiIV, that it would be redundant to add the option. It will be an unbiased religious system, that is the way they designed it. The names just thrown in for flavor, and for nothing else whatsoever.
That would make sense. They really should concentrate their efforts to things about the game that really need attention.Not such trivial things as who gets what religion, when choices make up what that religion entails, not it's name as in CiIV. Amazing with 11 days to go, we are really finding it hard to talk about new and interesting things. The tank of ideas is truly empty.
HeraldtheGreat
King
If there is this system then isabella will no longer always be either buddist or hinduist like in civ4...
If there is this system then isabella will no longer always be either buddist or hinduist like in civ4...
Correct, that was rather ridiculous. The thing is Spain may choose Catholicism, but the religion they found, may resemble a paganism after belief choices are made. The Spaniards could end up worshipping forests, while sacrificing infidels on the Tree of Woe.
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