Wonder Elimination Thread

[jlim201]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -17
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 21
Eiffel Tower - 28
Forbidden Palace- 29
Globe Theater - 14
Hagia Sophia - 0- If I want a religion that badly, I would get Stonehenge or get it with a faith producing pantheon which I got from a Shrine.
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 31
Louvre- 21- Two free GA can give you a long Golden Age. Basically two Taj Mahals.
Machu Picchu- 24
Neuschwanstein - 30
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 26
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 19
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 27
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House - 4
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 18

 

[bbbt]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -17
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 21
Eiffel Tower - 28
Forbidden Palace- 29
Globe Theater - 11The weakest of the cultural wonders - the free GW is nice, but it gives no other advantages besides the theming bonus, and it'd be better to go for the Leaning Tower in almost every regard
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 31
Louvre- 21
Machu Picchu- 24
Neuschwanstein - 31The bonuses alone make this worth building, never mind the fact that it turns every castle into a mini-version of itself
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 26
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 19
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 27
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House - 4
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 18

 

[CultureManiac]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -17
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 21
Eiffel Tower - 28
Forbidden Palace- 29
Globe Theater - 11
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 31
Louvre- 21
Machu Picchu- 24
Neuschwanstein - 31
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27 Free policy and a start on a great scientist.
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 19
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 27
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House - 1 Comes too late and is useless because I use all my musicians for culture bombs instead of a Great Works.
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 18

 

[Sake]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -17
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 21
Eiffel Tower - 28
Forbidden Palace- 29
Globe Theater - 11
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 31
Louvre- 22 - Biggest theming bonus in the game. Gets +8 bonus with Aesthetics finisher and 16+ if you are playing France. Exploration requirement can be good thing, i am currently playing Indonesia tourism game and lost all Renaissance wonders to two runaway AI's, but neither of them opened exploration which let me free Louvre.
Machu Picchu- 21 - Could save some nice money for wide empires, but i almost never bother to build it. Also, comes with rather low-priority tech.
Neuschwanstein - 31
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 19
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 27
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House - 1
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 18

 

[Dogmouth]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -17
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 28
Forbidden Palace- 29
Globe Theater - 11
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 31
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 31
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 19
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 27
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House - 0
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 18

Death to the Sydney Opera House. The bonuses are fine, but it comes so late that it doesn't play into any of my victories.

The Colossus is easily the most underrated wonder. A free coastal trade route (extra slot plus cargo ship) for dirt cheap early in the game? Yes, please! The bonus gold and the fact that the AI neglects this wonder is icing on the cake.

 

[Memoryjar]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -17
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 28
Forbidden Palace- 29
Globe Theater - 11
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 31
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 31
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 19
Prora- 23 :
Sistine Chapel - 27 + 1 : Easy to build and great bonus. And it has theming bonus.
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 18 - 3 = 15. I tried, really i tried, and i changed of Era. Damned !

 

[Guandao]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -17
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 28
Forbidden Palace- 29
Globe Theater - 11
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 31+1=32, I love getting this for the great person generation and the free great engineer to rush another wonder
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 31-3=28, it's a nice wonder to have, but sometimes I am unable to build it due to a lack of mountains
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 19
Prora- 23 :
Sistine Chapel - 28
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

 

[LordDavius]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -17-3=14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 28
Forbidden Palace- 29
Globe Theater - 11
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 19+1=20
Prora- 23 :
Sistine Chapel - 28
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

I think I've built Borobudur twice ever. When I get Theology, I'm usually much more interested in the Hagia Sophia (An unpopular opinion, it seems.) I dunno. Three free Missionaries just doesn't do it for me.
I'm a heavy Science player, so Porcelain Tower is a must-have for me.

 

[sendos]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 28
Forbidden Palace- 30 - stacks well with meritocracy SP (-15% in non-occupied cities), which can be more effective than Notra Dame. Also gives a much needed diplomatic boost in order to have a greater say before industrial era arrives. However, I've had Ethiopia steal this wonder from me twice in a row.
Globe Theater - 8 Same reason as bbbt: weakest of the cultural wonders. If you can get it, that's great but not recommended. Also, it's on same tech as Leaning Tower of Pisa, so it's best to let your most productive city build that wonder and have your next productive city build it.
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 20
Prora- 23 :
Sistine Chapel - 28
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

 

[Memoryjar]

Alhambra - 6
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 28 + 1 : 29 I'm French. Otherwise, every time i rush radio for Eiffel Tower. Priorize its construction over Broadway. Happiness and Tourisme right when i need them.
Forbidden Palace- 30
Globe Theater - 8 - 3 : 5. Same as sendos, except for Learning Tower.
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 20
Prora- 23 :
Sistine Chapel - 28
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

 

[Sake]

Alhambra - 3 - It's Great Library of medieval era: it's nice, but AI builds it insanely quickly. You have to rush chivalry if you want it. I don't really rush to chivalry unless playing civ with knight UU. Drill is nice, and allows land units to start with 4th promo. 20% culture is nice too. But still it's pain to get this wonder, better just to go for education for uni's rather than chivalry for knights and this wonder.
Big Ben - 10
Borobudur -14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 30 - Doesn't require any great works or theming bonuses, just gives 12 tourism and 5 happiness instantly. Even in non-tourism games really good wonder to get happiness and tourism to prevent ideology pressure.
Forbidden Palace- 30
Globe Theater - 5
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 20
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 28
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

 

[bbbt]

Alhambra - 3
Big Ben - 7Solid wonder, especially if playing wider, but I feel it arrives a little late for it's peak usefulness - I've got more important things to rush (and less money to do so), before it can be built. I'd love it if it got unlocked when say Machu Picchu does
Borobudur -14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 31 - I'll give it some more love. Amazing bonuses to happiness, tourism, and culture
Forbidden Palace- 30
Globe Theater - 5
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 20
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 28
Statue Of Liberty- 25
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

 

[bbbt]

Voting has stopped here for some reason?

 

[Beaver79]

Alhambra - 0 = 3 - 3 the last wonder that deals with military. I get enough promotions without needing these or even barracks for that matter.
Big Ben - 7
Borobudur -14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 31
Forbidden Palace- 30
Globe Theater - 5
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 20
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 28
Statue Of Liberty- 26 = 1 + 25 It's obviously better than the Oracle and imo better than the other ideology wonders. I think it's also the most game changing wonder. It encourages more specialists and gives production for them.
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

 

[jlim201]

Everyone complains about the Uffizis same era bonus. There is a very simple way to do this. Save up 3 Great Artists and pop them in the same era.

 

[FstrthnU]

Everyone complains about the Uffizis same era bonus. There is a very simple way to do this. Save up 3 Great Artists and pop them in the same era.

I'm pretty sure that the Great Work of Art is based off of when the Great Artist was born, not when it is used. I remember trying this and failing because the older Great Artists made works of previous eras.

 

[reticentbassist]

Big Ben - 7
Borobudur -14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 31
Forbidden Palace- 30
Globe Theater - 2 = 5 - 3 It is too far away from the Tourism/Culture tech to really be worth going for. Unless you beeline Writers Guild and then beeline Globe Theater
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 20
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 28
Statue Of Liberty- 27 = 26 + 1 I love SoL. I have always been a Freedom player and combined with Civil Society your specialists are so nice.
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

 

[Memoryjar]

Big Ben - 7 - 3 = 4 : Buid it, and just carry nothing. If i can purchase, 15 % a just a bonus, not a salvation.
Borobudur -14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 31
Forbidden Palace- 30
Globe Theater - 2
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 27
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 20
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 28 +1 = 29 : Always in my path. Allow me to have a decent culture. Thematic bonus. A must have.
Statue Of Liberty- 27
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

 

[Merciorum]

Big Ben - 4
Borobudur -14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 31
Forbidden Palace- 27 By the time that the Congress really matters, the extra delegates are utterly irrelevant.
Globe Theater - 2
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 28 A free social policy, coming from an easily attainable wonder? Yes please.
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower - 20
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 29
Statue Of Liberty- 27
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15

 

[sendos]

Big Ben - 4
Borobudur -14
Broadway - 18
Chichen Itza - 25
Colossus - 22
Eiffel Tower - 31
Forbidden Palace- 27
Globe Theater - 0 Goodbye, weak culture wonder.
Hanging Gardens- 23
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 32
Louvre- 22
Machu Picchu- 21
Neuschwanstein - 28
Notre Dame- 23
Oracle- 28
Petra- 24 Excellent wonder when you build your desert city next to some dunes/hills.
Porcelain Tower - 20
Prora- 23
Sistine Chapel - 29
Statue Of Liberty- 27
Stonehenge- 20
Temple of Artemis - 16
Uffizi - 15