Wonder Elimination Thread

Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 20
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 22 Food. Yes.
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 14
Leaning Tower- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 21
Notre Dame- 21
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 17 Just not worth it. Ok, you get a free great work. If you had picked up Oracle instead, you could get a great artist, or I mean, a lot of better things. In addition, since philosophy is the adjacent tech and happens to have nat. college, you need to be getting that up too.
Petra- 22
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 18
Red Fort- 14
Sistine Chapel-20
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 17
Temple of Artemis- 21
 
Speaking of which, I didn't bother to ever check: Are the "free" great artists from the policy and various wonders actually free, or do they still rack up the cost?
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 20
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 22
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 14
Leaning Tower- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 21
Notre Dame- 22 One of the better wonders for all purposes. It seems to be that you get hit by unhappiness in the Medieval era a lot in BNW, but now that I've started beelining for Notre Dame, I can afford to settle about two more cities than I would otherwise.
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 17
Petra- 22
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 18
Red Fort- 14
Sistine Chapel-20
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 14 The happiness boost it gives is too small, and a one-off Golden Age is useless.
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 20
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 22
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 14
Leaning Tower- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 21
Notre Dame- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 17
Petra- 23 building a city in the desert sure is fun
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 18
Red Fort- 14
Sistine Chapel-20
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 11 the same reason as above
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 20
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 22
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 14
Leaning Tower- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 21
Notre Dame- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 17
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 18
Red Fort- 14
Sistine Chapel-21 -> a great cultural wonder
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 8 -> A waste ...
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 20
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 22
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 14
Leaning Tower- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 22 I love this in a wide empire. Castles usually only take a few turns to build at this point in the game and this wonder makes those turns totally worth it. It's also fairly easy to get.
Notre Dame- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 14 there's so many better things to build at this point it's hard to justify 250 hammers for a great work and 4 culture especially considering how hard it is to get a theming bonus with a classical artwork.
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 18
Red Fort- 14
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 8
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 20
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 22
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
You're the worst ideology wonder. Armored units aren't even that good unless they can ignore zone of control, ironically.

Leaning Tower- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 14
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 18
Red Fort- 14
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
The taj is fine for now. A golden age is still pretty good, and it synergizes well if you're Brazil or Persia. There are worse wonders that need to go first.
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 20
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 14
Petra- 23
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 18
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 17- Not in a good tech path, and not very helpful
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 14
Petra- 24- Makes desert starts okay
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 18
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 20
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 17- Not in a good tech path, and not very helpful
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 14
Petra- 21 - Sorry, but as a rule I never touch desert starts, due mainly because the AI will always prioritize building it even if they only have 1 desert tile.
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 18
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 21 - Didn't vote you up last time. Will do now for same reasons as previously for Borobudor.
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 17
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 21
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 11 Too most hassle for such a little thing at just the wrong time.
Petra- 21
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 19 Liberty is the best of the first branches, and the pyramids help get a spreading empire up and running faster
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 21
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
Temple of Artemis - 21
Uffizi - 20
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 20
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 17
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22 Gives a nice boost early if you have marble/stone near your capital but later on becomes incredibly powerful if you are producing a steady stream of Great People. I've often found this can help me keep up in diplomacy even without building Forbidden Palace or specing into anything that helps with CS influence beyond just getting gold.
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 8 Just not worth the opportunity cost.
Petra- 21
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 19 Liberty is the best of the first branches, and the pyramids help get a spreading empire up and running faster
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 21
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
Temple of Artemis - 21
Uffizi - 20
 
Big Ben- 18
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 21 Nice wonder for cultural victory.
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 11
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 17
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 5 - This, however, is worst tourism wonder in game. 250 hammers for one great work? Just build writer's guild, it's on same tech. This should at least have 2 slots for some nice theming bonus.
Petra- 21
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 19
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 21
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
Temple of Artemis - 21
Uffizi - 20
 
Big Ben- 19 good wonder when it is combined with the commerce 25% discount and either the autocracy military purchase discount or the order buildings discount.
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 21
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 8 -10% culture policy cost really means little. If it ever gets buffed, I either recommend +8 tourism or +100% faith produced in the city that builds it or both, along with its current effects.
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 17
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 23
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 5
Petra- 21
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 19
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 14
Stonehenge- 21
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
Temple of Artemis - 21
Uffizi - 20
 
Big Ben- 19
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 21
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 8
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 23
Great Lighthouse- 17
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24 Probably the most versatile wonder
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 5
Petra- 21
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 19
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus- 11 Does practically nothing, and you need honor.
Stonehenge- 21
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
Temple of Artemis - 21
Uffizi - 20
 
Big Ben- 19
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 21
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 8
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 24 Very helpful
Great Lighthouse- 17
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 23
Parthenon- 2 Not worth it, especially in classical there's better things to do
Petra- 21
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 19
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus - 11
Stonehenge- 21
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
Temple of Artemis - 21
Uffizi - 20
 
Big Ben- 19
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-21
Broadway- 21
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 8
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 24 Very helpful
Great Lighthouse- 17
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 11
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 24 This is a wonder worth going for as fast as possible, unlike others you might snap up if nobody else seems to be doing so
Parthenon- 0 Another death by my hand
Petra- 21
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 19
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus - 11
Stonehenge- 21
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
Temple of Artemis - 21
Uffizi - 20
 
Big Ben- 19
Borobudur- 21
Brandenburg Gate-22 A great wonder to have in your main troop building city, I like the GS point too.
Broadway- 21
Chichen Itza- 20
Colossus- 22
Cristo Redentor- 8
Eiffel Tower- 22
Forbidden Palace- 24
Globe Theater- 20
Great Firewall- 18
Great Library- 24
Great Lighthouse- 17
Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
Great Wall- 17
Hagia Sophia- 20
Hanging Gardens- 23
Himeji Castle- 20
Hubble Space Telescope- 22
Kremlin- 8 Does an Order civ really need a production bonus on units. If I'm playing Order I can crank out an army of tanks in a few turns without this wonder. Tanks are better for an Autocracy civ anyway.
Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
Louvre- 20
Machu Picchu- 21
Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
Neuschwanstein- 22
Oracle- 24
Petra- 21
Porcelain Tower- 21
Prora- 21
Pyramids- 19
Red Fort- 11
Sistine Chapel-21
Statue Of Liberty- 23
Statue of Zeus - 11
Stonehenge- 21
Sydney Opera House- 17
Taj Mahal- 9
Temple of Artemis - 21
Uffizi - 20
 
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