Wonder Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by MantaRevan, Oct 12, 2013.

  1. DeathwatchBob

    DeathwatchBob Chieftain

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    Big Ben- 19
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-22
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 20
    Colossus- 22
    Cristo Redentor- 5
    Eiffel Tower- 22
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 18
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 17
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 11
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 17
    Taj Mahal- 9
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20

    Cristo's 10% discount comes with the tech that gives you research labs. 8 turns after you get those up it's time for the bulb fiesta and victory soon to follow. So you are basically going to get an extra 1-3 turns of culture spread out over the final turns of the game.

    I find myself very tempted to open Patronage even if I don't plan on taking any further policies just to be able to build the Forbidden Palace. The unhappiness reduction is great for domination.
     
  2. jlim201

    jlim201 King

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    Big Ben- 19
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-22
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 20
    Colossus- 22
    Cristo Redentor- 6- Cristo Redentor is getting hit because it comes in the same tech as RL. RL only cost slightly over 1000 and with a good empire, that shouldn't be hard. There are worse wonders left.
    Eiffel Tower- 22
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 18
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14- +1 sight/movement isn't much, and its rare to get Optics early unless youre on Archipelago.
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 11
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 17
    Taj Mahal- 9
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  3. Jernfrau

    Jernfrau Chieftain

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    Location:
    Norfolk
    Big Ben- 19
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-22
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 20
    Colossus- 22
    Cristo Redentor- 6
    Eiffel Tower- 23 Happiness, culture and tourism. This is a a brilliant wonder.
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 18
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 11
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 17
    Taj Mahal- 6 It's just a golden age, not really worth rushing when there are other, better, wonders.
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  4. jlim201

    jlim201 King

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    Big Ben- 19
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19- 15xp is not much, and you would usually have a GG by this point.
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 21- Long Golden Ages= More Gold.
    Colossus- 22
    Cristo Redentor- 6
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 18
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 11
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 17
    Taj Mahal- 6
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  5. VicRatlhead5199

    VicRatlhead5199 King

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    Big Ben- 19
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 22 if another civ builds this I usually prioritize taking it from them, especially if I plan on going for Freedom. I love nice long golden ages.
    Colossus- 22
    Cristo Redentor- 6
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 15 A counterspy and a police station in your capital makes this kind of unnecessary. I suppose it frees up a spy but.....meh.
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 11
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 17
    Taj Mahal- 6
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  6. NoOneImportant

    NoOneImportant Warlord

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    Alhambra- 22 Someone omitted it a long time ago (it was at 21 at the time) and that's a pretty cool wonder with effects that can potentially be very powerful.
    Big Ben- 19
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 22
    Colossus- 22
    Cristo Redentor- 6
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 15
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 8 I can't see it ever being useful. If you went the bottom part of the tech tree fast enough to get this before the AI you're probably going domination and have a sizeable military.
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 17
    Taj Mahal- 6
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  7. DeathwatchBob

    DeathwatchBob Chieftain

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    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 20
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 22
    Colossus- 22
    Cristo Redentor- 3
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 15
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 8
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 17
    Taj Mahal- 6
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20

    Big money, big women, Big Ben.

    A good amount of bad ones still on the list, but my vote goes for Cristo since it is so late.
     
  8. MantaRevan

    MantaRevan Emperor

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    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 20
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 22
    Colossus- 22
    Cristo Redentor- 3
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 12
    There isn't anything great about the firewall. It's a symbol of oppression, hardly fit to be called a wonder. Plus it's bad.

    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 8
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 17
    Taj Mahal- 7
    You don't get that many golden ages, I'm going to try and keep the Taj alive as long as godawful wonders like Red Fort, Chriso, and the Firewall still stand.

    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  9. sendos

    sendos Immortal

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    Looks like someone is a big fan of Sips. ;)

    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 20
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 22
    Colossus- 22
    Cristo Redentor- 0 And goodbye, Cristo. I already stated my reasons for not liking this wonder.
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 12
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 8
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 18 Free social policy and another theming bonus opportunity. What's not to like about this wonder?
    Taj Mahal- 7
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  10. TreYs

    TreYs Chieftain

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    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 20
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 23 I usually rush for this with a GE after finishing Liberty. The bonus works really well with GAs if I choose to utilize their free Golden Ages.
    Colossus- 22
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 12
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Notre Dame 20 (I don't know why this thing disappeared.)
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 5 Considering I seldom build defensive buildings, I don't see much benefit from this. In fact, I almost hate this wonder as it makes it harder for me to cap AIs' cities once it's built.
    Sistine Chapel-21
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 18
    Taj Mahal- 7
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  11. Matthew.

    Matthew. Deity

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    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 20
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 23
    Colossus- 22
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 12
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Notre Dame 17
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 5
    Sistine Chapel-22
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 18
    Taj Mahal- 7
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20

    Parthenon gone so early... I can only imagine that it is because of high competition? 6 culture that early in the game is actually quite significant, although I can agree that it may be too difficult to rush it when there are better options available.

    Sistine because it has always been great for culture in any version of Civ 5.

    Notre Dame because while it is a great wonder, the only way to realistically get it on higher difficulties is through conquering the city that built it. I've seen this go as early as turn 90-ish.
     
  12. GoStu

    GoStu King

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    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 20
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 23
    Colossus- 22
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 25
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 12
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Notre Dame 17
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 5 -3 = 2
    Sistine Chapel-22 +1 = 23
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 18
    Taj Mahal- 7
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20

    Upvote to Sistine Chapel because it makes a huge impact when going for culture. +25% in all cities, and slots for two pieces of great art available before museums. Outclasses Christo Redentor in every way (although I often do build giant marble Jesus just for that extra edge). It's also available early enough to make a difference.

    Downvote to Red Fort. I never want to be using its bonus, I almost never build defensive buildings unless I get Neuschwanstein, and it just makes the AI who built it more obnoxious to kill off if they're being a pain.
     
  13. GoStu

    GoStu King

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    Post-mortem rebuttal on behalf of the CN tower: it's actually handy for wide civs as it makes all existing towers free as well. It also drops free buildings with a high hammer cost into your newer cities, and the extra population in every city isn't to be sniffed at: they generate science, plus some gold, etc. at no happiness cost. In fact, with the corresponding +1 happiness per city, and any previous unhappiness reducers like the forbidden palace or Liberty policies, it can be net happiness.

    So yeah, some combination of gold and culture boosts, plus population and quite probably a bit of happiness thrown in.
     
  14. Lights

    Lights Warlord

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    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 20
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 23
    Colossus- 22
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 26
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 12
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 17
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 22
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Notre Dame 17
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Red Fort- 0
    Sistine Chapel- 23
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 18
    Taj Mahal- 7
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20

    Red fort: Useless wonder, i don't build defensive building and as someone said before, it's only annoying because the IA has just built it and it's more difficult to take their cities.

    Forbidden palace: I love playing wide and I open Patronage only for the wonder. -10% happiness is a great boost of happiness and the 2 delegates are really useful when early congress.
     
  15. Sake

    Sake Warlord

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    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 20
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 23
    Colossus- 22
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 26
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 12
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 14 - I never really build this wonder. Yea it slows enemies down, and therefore enemy has to spent more time setting up siege. But i don't like the fact that it goes obsolete at some point. It's also ancient wonder, and since early on there are so many things you have to do (found cities, get trade routes etc.) early wonders must have some really cool effects to be worthwhile, and this is not.Only reason why i would build this wonder is to prevent AI getting that.
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 23 - This is the reason why beelining to satellites is good idea (unless you go for cultural/diplomatic you obviously beeline for telecommunications). Two great scientists alone are enough reason for even warmongers to get this, but free spaceship factory and 25% boost are icing on the cake for those who are going for SC.
    Kremlin- 8
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Notre Dame 17
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Sistine Chapel- 23
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 18
    Taj Mahal- 7
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  16. MantaRevan

    MantaRevan Emperor

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    1. Ankor Wat
    2. Pentagon
    3. CN Tower
    4. Terracotta Army
    5. Parthenon
    6. Christo Redentor
    7. Red Fort
     
  17. redwings1340

    redwings1340 Emperor

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    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 21 This wonder was indirectly buffed with the consulates nerf. Commerce will be worth getting more often now, and if you get commerce, this building is well worth getting.
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 23
    Colossus- 22
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 26
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 12
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 14
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 23
    Kremlin- 5 Bombers are better than tanks. The social policy is nice, but that's about it for this wonder.
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Notre Dame 17
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Sistine Chapel- 23
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 18
    Taj Mahal- 7
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  18. vibe96

    vibe96 Warlord

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    I think there are way too many wonders in this game. wonders should be unique and really rare and hard to get. Now there are like 50 different wonders. That may be good for a huge 12 civ game but with small maps it means over 10 wonders/civ
     
  19. Jernfrau

    Jernfrau Chieftain

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    Norfolk
    Alhambra- 22
    Big Ben- 21
    Borobudur- 21
    Brandenburg Gate-19
    Broadway- 21
    Chichen Itza- 23
    Colossus- 22
    Eiffel Tower- 23
    Forbidden Palace- 26
    Globe Theater- 20
    Great Firewall- 12
    Great Library- 24
    Great Lighthouse- 14
    Great Mosque of D'jenne- 17
    Great Wall- 14
    Hagia Sophia- 20
    Hanging Gardens- 23
    Himeji Castle- 20
    Hubble Space Telescope- 23
    Kremlin- 5
    Leaning Tower of Pisa- 24
    Louvre- 20
    Machu Picchu- 21
    Mausoleum of Halicarnassus- 22
    Neuschwanstein- 22
    Notre Dame 17
    Oracle- 24
    Petra- 21
    Porcelain Tower- 21
    Prora- 21
    Pyramids- 19
    Sistine Chapel- 24 This is just a great wonder, great culture boost.
    Statue Of Liberty- 23
    Statue of Zeus - 11
    Stonehenge- 21
    Sydney Opera House- 18
    Taj Mahal- 4 It's just a golden age
    Temple of Artemis - 21
    Uffizi - 20
     
  20. NoOneImportant

    NoOneImportant Warlord

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    So you also reject the free social policy because you don't like tanks? :confused:
     

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