Hopefully there will be as many as 9 new wonders in the second expansion. Just as many Gods & Kings had. With nine new WW's we could have some pretty neat ones and especially for mid-late game which deserves more to be added.
After 72 votes (+22)
1. Panama Canal - 38 (+11)
2. Versailles - 35 (+10)
3. Great Sphinx - 33 (+13)
4. Large Hadron Collider - 32 (+10)
5. Parthenon - 31 (+10)
6. Three Gorges Dam - 29 (+10)
7. Swedagon Paya - 24 (+6)
7. St. Peter's Basilica - 24 (+6)
9. Ishtar Gate - 23 (+8)
10. Pantheon - 21 (+7)
11. Empire State Building - 19 (+4)
12. Colosseum - 18 (+6)
12. Dome of the Rock - 18 (+2)
14. Borobudur - 15 (+6)
15. Florence Cathedral - 13 (+5)
15. Potala Palace - 13 (+6)
15. University of Sankore - 13 (+5)
18. Spiral Minaret - 12 (+4)
I can agree with almost all these choices, I would love to see most of them in Civ V
Actually, there are only a couple others I could imagine as being included (being both important and popular enough, while also unique enough to have good bonuses for gameplay)
For example the temple complexes of Teotihuacan
I'd love to see a wonder that improves city-state influence, either generating massive influence with one, or improving blanket influence with many. Perhaps the Rosetta Stone.
A really good early wonder would be one that helps with military unit production, perhaps even occasionally spawning one in a manner similar to a city-state. Or perhaps every time a great general is born, a unit or two appears with it. This helps with those wonder-building civ's that keep finding themselves overwhelmed by their imperialistic neighbors. Ishtar Gate?
I'd love to see a wonder that improves city-state influence, either generating massive influence with one, or improving blanket influence with many. Perhaps the Rosetta Stone.
A really good early wonder would be one that helps with military unit production, perhaps even occasionally spawning one in a manner similar to a city-state. Or perhaps every time a great general is born, a unit or two appears with it. This helps with those wonder-building civ's that keep finding themselves overwhelmed by their imperialistic neighbors. Ishtar Gate?
All of them are exactly that kind of bonuses I'm hoping the new wonders will bring.
Parthenon could have some kind of City-State bonus or increase the GP spawn rate. Great Sphinx with Faith bonus or gives additional benefits to your Temples.
Unit and/or GG spawning bonus could be given to Ishtar Gate, as you mentioned, or Dome of the Rock which was headquarters of Knights Templar, who believed the Dome of the Rock was the site of the Temple of Solomon.
Panama Canal, Versailles, Three Gorges Dam and Large Hadron Collider are really something I am waiting for. Those could bring really great late game bonuses.
All of them are exactly that kind of bonuses I'm hoping the new wonders will bring.
Parthenon could have some kind of City-State bonus or increase the GP spawn rate. Great Sphinx with Faith bonus or gives additional benefits to your Temples.
Unit and/or GG spawning bonus could be given to Ishtar Gate, as you mentioned, or Dome of the Rock which was headquarters of Knights Templar, who believed the Dome of the Rock was the site of the Temple of Solomon.
Panama Canal, Versailles, Three Gorges Dam and Large Hadron Collider are really something I am waiting for. Those could bring really great late game bonuses.
The Rosetta Stone was a manmade piece of a stele that had Greek and 2 types of Egyptian writing on it. The French found it, then the British got a hold of it and around 20 years later it was fully translated. So Rosetta Stone became synonymous with language translation. It's not even that big. It's less than 4ft tall and weighs less than a ton.
Many other similar stones have been found since then. It's no longer unique. It was a mere temple decoration when it was created, then recycled for a building project several centuries later. It only became wonderous and useful when people again became curious about the ancient world.
I'd hardly call it a wonder of the world. It may be a cornerstone of Egyptology, but it's not something that is a one-in-the-world kind of creation.
Now maybe the British Museum that it's housed in could be a national wonder. That'd be great.
The Rosetta Stone was a manmade piece of a stele that had Greek and 2 types of Egyptian writing on it. The French found it, then the British got a hold of it and around 20 years later it was fully translated. So Rosetta Stone became synonymous with language translation. It's not even that big. It's less than 4ft tall and weighs less than a ton.
to be honest, the game already has far too many "wonders". most of these wonders are just tourist destinations. Wonders should be one of a kind, not just the first of of many.
i would rather see fewer wonders and more national wonders but with a twist. clump all the tall buildings together, each with a slightly different bonus, but you get to only build one of them. or make the first one a wonder, and the rest as national wonders with less bonus, again only able to build one.
The Rosetta Stone was a manmade piece of a stele that had Greek and 2 types of Egyptian writing on it. The French found it, then the British got a hold of it and around 20 years later it was fully translated. So Rosetta Stone became synonymous with language translation. It's not even that big. It's less than 4ft tall and weighs less than a ton.
Many other similar stones have been found since then. It's no longer unique. It was a mere temple decoration when it was created, then recycled for a building project several centuries later. It only became wonderous and useful when people again became curious about the ancient world.
I'd hardly call it a wonder of the world. It may be a cornerstone of Egyptology, but it's not something that is a one-in-the-world kind of creation.
Now maybe the British Museum that it's housed in could be a national wonder. That'd be great.
well, considering that (at least in civ 4 and probably in 5, too, but i haven't checked the civilopedia lately), the national wonders with "epic" in the name are books, the rosetta stone qualifies. i'm not saying i think it needs to be a wonder, but if a story about a dude hitting things can qualify as a wonder, so can a chunk of stone that helped us to understand an ancient language.
This is the temple of the sun in Teotihuacan. It was a pilgrimage site of huge significance in classic mesoamerica and the aztecs based their culture and religion on that developed and centred here.
This is probably one of the most significant religious sites in central american history, and i would argue has a much greater place as a world wonder than the templo mayor which in comparison is an epeen boost to match the burj khalifa in dubai. Yes it's big, yes it's pretty, but that isn't all that makes a wonder in my book.
I wanted an aztec/maya wonder on the list, and thought Templo Mayor is the most popular one
But you are probably right, and the temple complexes of Teotihuacan would have been a better choice...
Helepolis (Construction)
Defense +6
Great Engineer Points: 1
+15% production empire-wide when building siege units. Siege units built in this city receive the Volley promotion. The ranged attacks of the city where the wonder was built gain 1 tile of range.
Ara Pacis (Engineering)
Culture +3
Great Merchant Points: 2
-20% Unhappiness from puppet cities when not at war. +2 Culture in cities with a trade route.
Hwangnyongsa Temple in Korea would be nice, though I suspect they won't add it. It was featured in Age of Empires II, and would have religious and aesthetic significance. The story on Wikipedia talks about how it was involved with convincing nobles to convert to Buddhism, so maybe some of BnW's culture war benefits could come with it.
After 136 votes (+29)
Wonders with at least 25 votes:
1. Versailles - 67 (+13)
1. Great Sphinx - 67 (+18)
3. Panama Canal - 66 (+9) 4. Parthenon - 59 (+12) - confirmed as a wonder in BNW when it was on the 4th place
5. Three Gorges Dam - 55 (+10)
6. Large Hadron Collider - 52 (+8)
7. Swedagon Paya - 47 (+9)
8. Ishtar Gate - 45 (+9)
8. St. Peter's Basilica - 45 (+10)
10. Colosseum - 44 (+10) 11. Borobudur - 39 (+12) - confirmed as a wonder in BNW when it was on the 11th place
11. Dome of the Rock - 39 (+10)
13. Empire State Building - 37 (+5)
14. Pantheon - 36 (+6)
15. Florence Cathedral - 35 (+11)
15. Potala Palace - 35 (+8)
17. University of Sankore - 33 (+9)
18. Spiral Minaret - 29 (+9)
19. Mount Rushmore - 26 (+3)
Woah, there are some very nice suggestions there guys, I love how Civilization games always shows us so much beauty. I know there is already Machu Pichu on Peru but may I suggest adding the Nazca Lines?
I want to see a wonder that allows you to set just the AI citizen management in puppet cities. You can't lock tile by tile, but you can set them to science focus, culture focus, etc. Maybe something classical roman, since they pretty much puppeted, well, EUROPE.
To be honest, while it would be mildly fictional (As it was never properly built), I would like to see theWardenclyffe Tower as a wonder, I mean honestly, wireless energy must be a very wonderful thing, and who knows what it would mean in gameplay terms?
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