Supr49er
2011 Thunderfall Cup
Yes I have used WB, but usually do not.
World Builder
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This is was done in a very neat OCC Always War game. I reccommend it; quite fun.
EDIT: Just noticed that I referenced the wrong quote from Blitz. I'll correct myself in a new post below. Sorry.
To me that's a helluva lot worse than WBing in a few buildings you lost to some b/s random event.
I've always thought what it would be like to OCC and use WB to put everything I could ever want in the BFC. But, alas, I do not want to play OCC
Sorry, Blitz, this is the quote I was looking for when I referenced the OCC Always War game in my post above. Silly me.
You just need to check two puny boxes in the game settings to save yourself from the hassle
Tribal villages - OFF
Random events - OFF
FidelZandro
Optimistic turtle
That's exactly how I use it.
Most of the time i'll check the WB to see what my starting position is like.
I don't play Civ often enough to spoil a whole evening of playing only to find out that i don't have iron AND Mansa Musa is next to me with 2 goldmines from the beginning. But i don't change things in WB to get a better start.
blitzkrieg1980
Octobrist
You just need to check two puny boxes in the game settings to save yourself from the hassle
Tribal villages - OFF
Random events - OFF
I don't mind getting shafted on one end or the other, but when they're both shaftin' then it's too shafterific and I must step in to regulate
eris
King
Actually, I would prefer there was a setting in the ini file that turned it off. Twice now I have lumsily hit ctrl-w instead of ctrl-s. I was upset that the computer would then think I cheated and ruin my chance to actually win and get a decent score on my records.
I did once use it to check out just how bad things were when I was being attacked by the entire world and ready to quit. Things were pretty bad alright. They were even worse that I thought! If I need something that scary, I'll go re-read a Stephen King book!
I did once use it to check out just how bad things were when I was being attacked by the entire world and ready to quit. Things were pretty bad alright. They were even worse that I thought! If I need something that scary, I'll go re-read a Stephen King book!
TheMeInTeam
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You just need to check two puny boxes in the game settings to save yourself from the hassle
Tribal villages - OFF
Random events - OFF
100% agree. I wish the buttons were to turn them ON, since IMO they are game-altering elements that impact similarly to other custom options. They should be off by default, IMO.
AfterShafter
Deity
I think the only time I've ever used it was to find out what types of maps were being generated by the scripts - saved a *lot* of play testing to find out what types of maps offered what I was looking for. Since my use was more or less one time only (per expansion), I voted no.
It just feels like cheating
That's because it is. There's no point in playing a game if you have to resort to cheating. I only use it to test something that I've modded in my game.
Tribal Villages (Goody Huts) have been an element of the game since the very first Civ. Why should they be off by default?
If you start a game using the Custom option, I believe you can turn it off in there.
Lord N.
Chieftain
I never use it when playing a game. A couple of times I used it to better understand game mechanics, and, as already mentioned, to see what type of map will be generated by different scripts.
Seriously? Put yourself in the developer's shoes? Why go to all this effort to design and code a feature of the game like tribal villages if you are going to turn them off by default? Only players who use the Custom game option (we don't even know if that is the majority of players - it probably isn't) would ever get to enjoy the feature.
I know they have a great impact on competitive play because they can drastically alter the flow of a game, especially early on, but I don't see that as anywhere near a good enough reason to turn them off by default.
The other thing is, as Willem said, they've been there (tribal huts that is) since Civ1 so it's a bit of a legacy too - one of the many things that ensure what we're seeing is is still a Civ game and not something else.
DaveMurray
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Never use the WB except just to test the limits of the AI. I did a deity always war test one time where I gave 3 AIs huge plots of land to see what kind of stacks they would toss my way. It was pretty funny.
blitzkrieg1980
Octobrist
Except maybe... to enjoy it! Having fun with a game doesn't always mean playing by the rules. Just ask the US government.
Crowqueen
Token forum woman
@Dave Murray - looks like modern day North Korea!!!!
In general...I use the cheat codes if I really want to cheat.
I do use the WB sometimes but I'm too embarrassed to admit to what I used it for. Playing Civ III which has no noticeable cheat codes or accessible worldbuilder has probably prepared me for going back to Civ IV and forcing me to play it without any cheating in an extra settler and warrior at the beginning of the game, but that's just how I get amusement out of the game myself.
Some day I will try Civ IV again without cheating but at the moment I can't be bothered to overload my laptop with the top-heavy programming.
In general...I use the cheat codes if I really want to cheat.
I do use the WB sometimes but I'm too embarrassed to admit to what I used it for. Playing Civ III which has no noticeable cheat codes or accessible worldbuilder has probably prepared me for going back to Civ IV and forcing me to play it without any cheating in an extra settler and warrior at the beginning of the game, but that's just how I get amusement out of the game myself.
Some day I will try Civ IV again without cheating but at the moment I can't be bothered to overload my laptop with the top-heavy programming.
