World Cup 2010 Final!

True, but given how Sneijder was controlled, the Spanish understood it too. Just a bit less obvious.

Obviously, a world cup final gets a lot of attention and hindsight analysis. But this isn't exactly the first time a smoothly running football machine gets derailed by rough play.
Yeah indeed. I guess the things slowly degenerated in the first half. I don't believe van Marvijk asked his players to hurt Xavi and Iniesta, but I'm quite convinced he told his players not to hesitate to disrupt the Spanish pace in committing fouls... afterwards, it's an interaction between the players and the referee, they go as far as he lets them do. And indeed, that was true for both Dutch and Spanish players.
 
Things aren't so simple, because football is a sport where we should play the ball and not the player, but in which contacts are still tolerated. As such it's relatively easy for players to hit their opponents, as long as they pretend to play the ball.

What needs to be understood is that football is played with very fragile parts of the human body: ankles and knees. As such, dangerous play isn't really about Zidane-like headbutting... that's impressive, stupid and against the spirit of the game, but it's not really dangerous or "dirty".

Dirty play is more like pretending we play the ball, but constantly targetting opponents knees and ankles, that's how you "destroy" a player. And when you watch Iniesta's knees in the airplane after the final (in the youtube video previously posted in this thread), you clearly see that Dutch players have hit hard, and on purpose. That's clearly dirty play, no matter the side of the pond in which one lives in.

Actually, the laws of the game make it quite easy to stop the dirty play: you just need to send off a player and that generally calms down everyone.

The issue in here was that it was the world cup final, the most important match out of 4 years on the planet, all sports combined. The referee didn't want to ruin the game in reducing the Dutch team to 10 players after 20 minutes of game. Dutch players understood it rather quickly and didn't hesitate to abuse from the situation.

If many people considers the game was badly refereed, it's not really because of any specific bad calls, it's mostly because the referee didn't succeed to control the game as he should have, because he was too lenient during the first 70 minutes.

I think that's a perfect analysis of what happened in the Final.
 
you clearly see that Dutch players have hit hard, and on purpose. That's clearly dirty play, no matter the side of the pond in which one lives in.
Spain did the same.

The issue in here was that it was the world cup final, the most important match out of 4 years on the planet, all sports combined. The referee didn't want to ruin the game in reducing the Dutch team to 10 players after 20 minutes of game.
28, but that's a nitpick.
Dutch players understood it rather quickly and didn't hesitate to abuse from the situation.
As did the Spanish

edit: *sees next page*
And indeed, that was true for both Dutch and Spanish players.
Redundant post is redundant :(
 
So, basically we can safely agree that neither side was sportsmanly and that neither gave a crap about the other side's physical welfare as long as they got to lift the Cup.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8881092.stm
Fifa fines Spain & Netherlands for World Cup behaviour
World Cup winners Spain and their opponents Netherlands have been fined by Fifa for their players' poor discipline in July's final.

Football's governing body fined the Dutch federation £9,080, while the Spanish association must pay £6,053. ...

What a silly fine, too little, too late.
 
pfff like they care, with all the money they won.
 
Every Spanish player got $750,000, every Dutch player about half of that.

I guess they don't really have to do extra paper routes to pay this fine.
 
They sure know how to crack down for the overall good of the sport.

The match set a record for the most cards received in a World Cup final, beating the six yellows shown when Argentina beat West Germany 3-2 in the 1986 final.

The final was also the worst behaved of the 64 matches played in South Africa.
 
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