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You got to get India in different languages. I know its El-Hind in Arabic.
World Nations - The Origin of Names
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Tom|420
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India in French = Indes (plurial)
Chauliodus
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Its alllllways the hairy white man
Yes, and France is still called Frankreich by the German. It means Frank Empire...
Yes, and France is still called Frankreich by the German. It means Frank Empire...
Actually Éire refers to all of Ireland. That and we've been a republic as opposed to the Free State in the British Commonwealth since 1949. The republic is Poblacht na hÉireann, Éire is all of Ireland. Would have thought you'd known that
and BTW, Rí has a fada on the i.
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Norway has two meanings mostly. Either the original meaning in nordic translation as Noreg and Norge. Normannernes rige(the land of the norse). Or Norvegen, Norway etc which means basicly as u read it - the road north.
I think Swedens nordic name 'Sverige' comes from Sveernes rige(the land of the sve (sveerne)). Today I have no idea, sveerne and the danes land?
Reich or Rige don't necesarilly have to do something with Reich in the context that it means an empire, I think it's more an abrivation for 'The land of <insert ethnic populations name>'. So Frankreich would be the land of the franks.
I think Swedens nordic name 'Sverige' comes from Sveernes rige(the land of the sve (sveerne)). Today I have no idea, sveerne and the danes land?
Reich or Rige don't necesarilly have to do something with Reich in the context that it means an empire, I think it's more an abrivation for 'The land of <insert ethnic populations name>'. So Frankreich would be the land of the franks.
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I do not know if this has been posted yet... but..
Russia is named because in an Older Russian (Im pretty sure its not in Modern Russian.. I asked my father and he says he's never heard of it) language, Rus, means light.. I think it was one of the Viking settlers called it Land of Rus, and Russia was called Russiya and then English heard Russiya and said Russia.. Russia is a very crude wording of Russiya... Russiya is much more.. soft.. Russia is hard and crude..
Russia is named because in an Older Russian (Im pretty sure its not in Modern Russian.. I asked my father and he says he's never heard of it) language, Rus, means light.. I think it was one of the Viking settlers called it Land of Rus, and Russia was called Russiya and then English heard Russiya and said Russia.. Russia is a very crude wording of Russiya... Russiya is much more.. soft.. Russia is hard and crude..
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Just to tell you, Russians also use the Polish use of Niemcy.
Niemcy, Nemenski...
Marla_Singer
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Well, actually India is called Inde (singular) in French. "Indes" (plural) is the french word for "Indies".
WickedSmurf
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IIRC the name of the one of the first vikings in Russia was named Rus, hence the name, Russia.
If someone got the facts on this, I'd like see it.. I've heard many many things about the origin of the name "Russia" of which this one and the one quoted from Ukraineboy seem most likely.
WickedSmurf
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In Swedish it is Sverige, which derives from "Svearnas Rike" or "Svea Rike". "Rike" meaning "kingdom" and "svear" being an elder name for Swedes.
Something like that
Adler17
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Modern Archaeologists say that the first state in Russia was founded by the Vinking tribe Rus. From that Russia was born. This happened near Nowgorod, the old Russian capital.
Adler
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Oldenbarnevelt
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I won't kill you for saying that
but it's simply not true. For starters, it's a misconception that there has always been a "German" language. In fact, in the early and later Middle Ages, the whole area which is now called Germany, Austria, the Netherlands and Flanders, was a kind of linguistic continuum, in which each tribe had its own dialect, which was nonetheless rather similar to that of the neighbouring tribe. Political developments after the Middle Ages have brought about a situation in which two more or less artificial languages, German and Dutch, emerged from this linguistic continuum.In the 12th and 13th centuries, Flanders (Ghent, Bruges) held the cultural focus of the Low Countries. In the 14th and 15th centuries the focus shifted to Brabant (Brussels, Antwerp), and after that the province of Holland (Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Leyden) gained cultural dominance. The modern Dutch language has its roots in the old dialects of these three regions.
Now when you take any text that is written in Middle Dutch (a term denoting the several dialects spoken in the Low Countries before ca. 1600), and you compare it to texts written in what is now Germany in the same period, you will find that the difference then was as big as it is now. When you read Walther von der Vogelweide or Wolfram von Eschenbach (both ca. 1200), you say: Hey, that's old German. However, when you read Van den Vos Reinaerde or Hadewych's (aka Hadewijch) poetry (both ca. 1250), there is nothing in the language that you will associate with modern German rather than modern Dutch. So your claim is without any foundation. German and Dutch are related, yes, just as Norwegian and Swedish are. But neither is a dialect of the other.
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It's Novgorod, and yes it was a a very early capital.. it later moved to Kiev, then later to Moscow.
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Hellas (ÅëëÜò: Ellas), that is the real name for Greece (Ãñáéêßá: Graekia) , derived from the Greek eponymous hero Hellen ('Åëëçí: Elin), son of Deucalion and Pyrrha who according to Greek mythology is considered as the father of Greeks. The major Greek tribes, Dorians (Äùñéåßò: Doriis), Aeolians (Áéïëåßò: Aeolis), Ionians (ºùíåò: Iones) and Achaeans (Á÷áéïß: Achaei) were named after Hellen's sons Dorus (Äþñïò: Doros), Aeolus (Áßïëïò: Aeolos) and grandsons Ion (ºùí: Ion) and Achaeos (Á÷áéüò: Achaeos) - sons of Xuthus (Îïýèïò: Xuthos) - respectively.
Greece (Ãñáéêßá: Graekia) derived from Graecus (Ãñáéêüò: Graecos), son of Pandora - daughter of Deucalion and Pyrrha - and Zeus.
Apart from mythology it is not clear how the two names - Hellin and Greek - derived. It appears that Hellin was mostly used in southern Greece from the Archaic centuries and after while Greek might have been used in the north. The vast majority of ancient Greek wrighters, if not all, lived in southern Greece or in the colonies around Mediterranean which were founded by southern Greeks or thier descendants, so Hellin was the common name during most part of Antiquity.
The Romans extensively used the name Greek. It is not clear how that name was adopted instead of Hellin but according to a theory it was first introduced into Latin literature by Cicero as a result of his contempt and mockery against the decayed Greek of his time in opposition of their past greatness of Classical years.
Personaly I'm a bit wary to this theory. If the name Greek was spread through the Latin Literature then it could be true but if it was spread in Rome before Cicero then it must had been a common name possibly in the tribes that lived between Greece and Rome and that is the Balkans and northern Italy. Perhaps the true is somewhere between...
The only survival of the name Hellin in our days is found in Greece and Greek language where Hellin is still called Hellin and in the period of Antiquity before the Roman era that is known as Hellinistic period.
Greece (Ãñáéêßá: Graekia) derived from Graecus (Ãñáéêüò: Graecos), son of Pandora - daughter of Deucalion and Pyrrha - and Zeus.
Apart from mythology it is not clear how the two names - Hellin and Greek - derived. It appears that Hellin was mostly used in southern Greece from the Archaic centuries and after while Greek might have been used in the north. The vast majority of ancient Greek wrighters, if not all, lived in southern Greece or in the colonies around Mediterranean which were founded by southern Greeks or thier descendants, so Hellin was the common name during most part of Antiquity.
The Romans extensively used the name Greek. It is not clear how that name was adopted instead of Hellin but according to a theory it was first introduced into Latin literature by Cicero as a result of his contempt and mockery against the decayed Greek of his time in opposition of their past greatness of Classical years.
Personaly I'm a bit wary to this theory. If the name Greek was spread through the Latin Literature then it could be true but if it was spread in Rome before Cicero then it must had been a common name possibly in the tribes that lived between Greece and Rome and that is the Balkans and northern Italy. Perhaps the true is somewhere between...
The only survival of the name Hellin in our days is found in Greece and Greek language where Hellin is still called Hellin and in the period of Antiquity before the Roman era that is known as Hellinistic period.
Originally posted by WickedSmurf
In Swedish it is Sverige, which derives from "Svearnas Rike" or "Svea Rike". "Rike" meaning "kingdom" and "svear" being an elder name for Swedes.
Something like that
I've heard that "Sverige" actually is danish: "Sve[a] Rige".
I've also heard that Sweden as a state was born when two "tribes" - Svear and Götar - united under one king in order to defend themselves from the danes. That makes me believe that the danish actually was referring to the Sveas, and not the Gotas, and thus not the Swedes either. That's a wild guess though.
FYI: swedes refers to themselves as svenskar (plural).
Now I hope someone hurries to fill in the details and also explains the origins of the english name, Sweden.
willemvanoranje
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well, in Holland we say Zweden and in Germany it's Schweden...so I'd be interested too.
some others:
- France is called Frank Empire in Dutch too (Frankrijk)
- We Dutch-languaged resemble Deutschland most in our definition of Germany (Duitsland)...the word Germany is very abvious: the ancient Germans come from the area.
- Dutch and German differ a little more than Swedish and Norwegian, but furthermore I agree with my colleague in being a great Dutch statesman. Van Oldenbarneveldt, cheers!
some others:
- France is called Frank Empire in Dutch too (Frankrijk)
- We Dutch-languaged resemble Deutschland most in our definition of Germany (Duitsland)...the word Germany is very abvious: the ancient Germans come from the area.
- Dutch and German differ a little more than Swedish and Norwegian, but furthermore I agree with my colleague in being a great Dutch statesman. Van Oldenbarneveldt, cheers!
I'll add my two cents here;
The name "Iran" was actually given by the Turkish military rulers of the region. The word itself was actually used to describe the whole region (such as "Scandinavia", "Anatolia", "Arabia", etc.). The word itself found it's way into Persian (Farsi) and since then, the country is called Iran.
The name "Turkey", on the other hand, was given by the Italian aristocratic family of the Medici's, basicly. "Turchia", I suppose, was the first time the word "Turkey" was used. The Anatolian Turks never referred to their lands as "Turkey" before, but heavy trading relations with the Ottomans made the Italians refer to the country as "Turkey".
Hence, the name in Turkish is "Turkiye" (and that's what we prefer to use instead of "Turkey" usually. Somewhat nationalistic, no doubt, because of the name given to the bird "turkey", which was also influenced by the country Turkey as a result of the orientalism of the era).
The word "Turkiye", which means "the land of the Turks" found it's way into Anatolian Turkish. It was used by the civilians a lot, and when the Republic of Turkey was formed, it was named "Turkiye".
The name "Iran" was actually given by the Turkish military rulers of the region. The word itself was actually used to describe the whole region (such as "Scandinavia", "Anatolia", "Arabia", etc.). The word itself found it's way into Persian (Farsi) and since then, the country is called Iran.
The name "Turkey", on the other hand, was given by the Italian aristocratic family of the Medici's, basicly. "Turchia", I suppose, was the first time the word "Turkey" was used. The Anatolian Turks never referred to their lands as "Turkey" before, but heavy trading relations with the Ottomans made the Italians refer to the country as "Turkey".
Hence, the name in Turkish is "Turkiye" (and that's what we prefer to use instead of "Turkey" usually. Somewhat nationalistic, no doubt, because of the name given to the bird "turkey", which was also influenced by the country Turkey as a result of the orientalism of the era).
The word "Turkiye", which means "the land of the Turks" found it's way into Anatolian Turkish. It was used by the civilians a lot, and when the Republic of Turkey was formed, it was named "Turkiye".
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