World War 3... are we in it?

[Pellaken]

I'd say that we are already in World War 3.
look at it... World War 1 was just a regular war. Over land. As wars had been for the past thousands of years. One country wanted to take another country, and another country came in to help, then another country came in to help... and ended up being blamed for the war in the first place...
World War 2 was political. "your a nazi, and your trying to take over the world... I'm gonna kill you" I'm not arguing with the war, but it wasent a traditional war, it was a political war. after WW2, we went into the Cold War, the most political of political wars.
Well now we are into a new age, the compuer age, etc... So, my question here is, are we already in WW3? is these battles we are having around the world, WW3? I always thought that WW3 would eathier be started by the US or Muslims, and since Septermber 11th I've signed a 'truce' with the USA, since I have.... Issues, with islam. Personally, I dont think Pat Robertson was too far off, and for a Left-Liberal Maniac to say that...

I'd say that we are already into WW3, and that we should all accept it and ready ourself for the next phase... whatever that may be.

 

[Alexander's Horse]

If WWIII has started I haven't been officially advised.

 

[sgrig]

The US is currently fighting or preparing to fight terrorists or what it claims to be terrorists all over the world (Afghanistan, Phillippines, Georgia, Somalia, Yemen, Sudan, Iraq and maybe others as well) with support of its allies (UK, Canada, Australia, Germany are fighting in Afghanistan) so I suppose it could be called a world war, but not in the traditional sense.

 

[Greadius]

Doesn't a world war require, like, armies? Do terrorists really haev an army? If they did, wouldn't it be in shambles by now?

Oh, yeah, it is.
I suppose you'd need them to actually hold territory/wave their flag in the tradition sense in order to have a world war in the traditional sense.

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Isn't panic-mongering in wartime a capital offence?

We are in a war, as much as some would seek to deny it, but it is not like any previous major international conflict in various aspects of its nature.
It is a global war, but is not WORLD WAR 3 (notice capitalisation to denote the difference). For this, you need a clash of powers.
At the moment, the order of battle is that on one side is a multilateral group of all the major powers in the world, plus some non-state actors, up against a non-state entity (terrorism) and several minor rogue states who are on the path to destruction. They have no chance to survive, make their time...

 

[Juize]

If India will stay cool, theres no potential WW3 -starting places currently.

 

[BlueMonday]

We can't be in the third world war yet because there are still six billion people drawing breath. Once WWIII comes around, you'll probably only know about it for the few seconds before a shock wave causes you to explode in water balloon fashion.

 

[Juize]

Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
(..)At the moment, the order of battle is that on one side is a multilateral group of all the major powers in the world, plus some non-state actors, up against a non-state entity (terrorism) and several minor rogue states who are on the path to destruction. They have no chance to survive, make their time...

Of course, then we have these guys like mr. Mugabe who arrests his runner-ups in elections
because they're all evil terrorists.

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Originally posted by Juize

Of course, then we have these guys like mr. Mugabe who arrests his runner-ups in elections
because they're all evil terrorists.

And that is happening because world powers aren't following my advice, biting the imperialist bullet, and taking him down through invasion, assassination or nuclear strike. The Commonwealty basically called him a rather naughty boy, and the African nations even thought this was a bit harsh. Ah, for the days of unilateralist gun- boat diplomacy/real action.
The Battle of Mboto Gorge comes to mind. "Ten thousand Watutsi warriors armed to the teeth with kiwi fruit and guava halves."
Mugabe rants and raves about Britain and the rest of the civilized world being evil and imperialist towards him, and seeking to kill him; well, if they ARE, then he is lucky it is not the good old days when they could do that sort of thing properly
If I was Tony Blair, I would say to myself, "Well, if he's going to accuse us of planning to overthrow him and even invade, we may as well oblige him."
But maybe I am just too psychotic and mindlessly violent for the international stage. If I was in Mrs T's shoes back when Argentina waltzed into the Falklands, I would have made a call to the junta leadership: "Hello. Can you see that bright spot in the sky getting closer to you down there in Buenos Aires? That's Trident. Have a nice day."

>slaps self<

Ahem. What I am trying to imply is Mugabe is a product of ignoring evil for too long. He is not going to get off, neither are any other of the naughty people, with the sea change in international relations.

 

[Flatlander Fox]

A world war in the traditional sense may never happen again.

The "Hot water balloon" antecedent is probably dead on what the next World War will be like.


Why are you asking, have you been drafted?

 

[Richard III]

Originally posted by Pellaken
World War 1 was just a regular war. Over land.
World War 2 was political. "your a nazi, and your trying to take over the world... I'm not arguing with the war, but it wasent a traditional war, it was a political war.
after WW2, we went into the Cold War, the most political of political wars.
...and since Septermber 11th I've signed a 'truce' with the USA, since I have.... Issues, with islam. Personally, I dont think Pat Robertson was too far off, and for a Left-Liberal Maniac to say that...

Well, your confession of "issues" with Islam is refreshing, and might offer an explanation for your flag-waving, "go slobo!" attitude in another thread. Which begs the question:

What kind of war was the Slovene war of independence?
What kind of war was the Croat-Serb war?
What kind of war was the Bosnian civil war?
What kind of war was the NATO intervention in the Kosovo civil war?

Given that other thread, I am just curious about your perspective on this.

 

[TrailblazingScot]

No we are not in World War 3...they haven't got a flag...no flag, no country, no war.

 

[S.P.Q.R.]

I guess that if we were in WW3, we wouldn't discuss now wheter or not it's a world war... this would be pretty clear then

 

[Pellaken]

well, if you guys had been able to pick up the point of the thread... lemme clarify. I'm saying that world war 3 will NOT be against flag waving armies, but against terriosts.

 

[sysyphus]

During the Gulf War there were people calling it the third world war. Some said it about Korea, some said it about Vietnam.


You could perhaps make that claim.

Basically, the xth World War is simply a name. The third world war will be the war that people start referring to as tyhe third world war.

There are no criteria, official or otherwise, set out for calling a war the "third world war"

Noentheless, the next biug war when the secret powers (i.e. Canada, Australia and New Zealand) inevitably take over the world. Don't live in denial, you know it will happen!

 

[Adebisi]

Hehe... This is an interesting post I found in another forum....

Originally posted
Yahoo, 11:57 am
3 March 2002

In the News

· U.S. readies commandos, deploys sensors amid nuclear terror fears
· Swiss voters OK joining UN
· India violence kills almost 500
· U.S. bombs Afghan mountains
· Shuttle crew captures Hubble

What picture do you have in your mind - probably for only a split second - when you think of the shuttle crew capturing the Hubble? Yeah, me too.

 

[Pellaken]

Hubble, your mine!
:soldier::soldier::soldier::soldier:

and to reply:
1What kind of war was the Slovene war of independence?
2What kind of war was the Croat-Serb war?
3What kind of war was the Bosnian civil war?
4What kind of war was the NATO intervention in the Kosovo civil war?

1, a legitimate war
2, a croat started war over land
3, a american started war, to "make friends" with muslims
4, legitimate intervention.

 

[Whiskey Priest]

I don't know if we are in world war three but it seems as though we are beginning a game of command & conquer. Seriously, if you just substitute USA for GDI and Al-Queda for NOD in all the news reports and breifings this war begins to make a little more sense. Think about.

 

[DagorFunk]

Originally posted by Pellaken
I'd say that we are already in World War 3.
look at it... World War 1 was just a regular war. Over land. As wars had been for the past thousands of years. One country wanted to take another country, and another country came in to help, then another country came in to help... and ended up being blamed for the war in the first place...
World War 2 was political. "your a nazi, and your trying to take over the world... I'm gonna kill you" I'm not arguing with the war, but it wasent a traditional war, it was a political war.

This is a moronic statement. The Nazis initiated WW2 over land. Have you not heard of <i>lebensraum</i>. Hitler wanted to secure more living space (read: land) for the German people. To do so he struck at the Soviet Union. Everyone else fought against them to protect their land.

Anyways, we're not in WW3 right now. If it were than you'd be training for the army right now, not sitting down at your computer.

 

[Maj]

We could be in the midst of World War 46 if we were to use a different set of a criteria to define what in essence is a World War. I'm not even sure what the official definition of a world war is. I'm not even sure an official definition exists.

A world war is when that war begins to affect your world, your reality. Right now there are millions of people who are in a world war and what numerical suffix they tag onto it is nowhere near any realm of concern to them. Nor should it be to any except those who wish to record and recount the greatest follies of humankind in the meaningless language of quantity of lives destroyed and lands captured.

War to most of us is little more than words and pictures and I can only hope that it remains that way for I never want to realize the true, unspeakable horror that defines what it really is.

- Maj