World Wonder Elimination Thread

[Forster]

Alhambra 8
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 33
Colosseum = 29 + 1 = 30 Good for any civ.
Cristo Redentor = 13
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 19
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 25
Oxford University = 19
Petra=8
Potala Palace = 13 - 3 = 10 Seldom bother.
Ruhr Valley = 23
Venetian Arsenal = 25

Moderator Action: Fixed Great Zimbabwe's Score -- Jon

 

[joncnunn]

Alhambra 8 + 1 = 9 An extra military policy is in my opinion slightly better than an extra diplomatic policy and with both currently around the same score it gets todays upvote.
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 33
Colosseum = 30
Cristo Redentor = 13 -3 = 10 Not even worthwhile if the AI builds it and you capture it for free, and so should go before anything giving extra policy spots.
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 19 This vote got miscopied several hours ago; fixed.
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 25
Oxford University = 19
Petra=8
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 23
Venetian Arsenal = 25

 

[bbbt]

Alhambra 9
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 33
Colosseum 30
Cristo Redentor = 11 (10 +1) Strongest cultural wonder in the game
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 19
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 25
Oxford University = 16 (19 - 3) Two free techs are random ones. 20% is not a huge boost in this game. Vs you could build what, 10 campus district projects for the price of building this? Not sure that's not the better option.
Petra=8
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 23
Venetian Arsenal = 25

 

[Siptah]

Alhambra 9
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 33
Colosseum 30
Cristo Redentor = 11
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 19
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26 (25+1) with Gustave Eiffel and that other guy getting more charges, that's practically a free wonder if you manage to get one of them.
Oxford University = 16
Petra=8
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 20 (23-3) It's time for this to go around now. Not a top 10 wonder at all.
Venetian Arsenal = 25

 

[kaspergm]

Alhambra 9
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 34 (33+1) Gold can be converted to just about anything you need.
Colosseum 30
Cristo Redentor = 11
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 19
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13 (16-3) Free techs are nice, but you don't know if they tehs you get are the ones you need, and overall science is very easy to come by in this game, deflating the value of this wonder.
Petra=8
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 20
Venetian Arsenal = 25

 

[Felis Renidens]

Alhambra 10 (9+1) policy card wonders should not be less than 10 at this point
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 34
Colosseum 30
Cristo Redentor = 11
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 16 - Nice if you can find exactly the right spot. Usually I don't get a spot for it and just don't build it.
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Petra=8
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 20
Venetian Arsenal = 25

 

[CPWimmer]

Alhambra 10
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 34
Colosseum 30
Cristo Redentor = 11
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Petra= 5 = 8-3 While I understand the in-fighting about policy card wonders, Petra should leave before any of them. This and Cristo Redentor are the weakest left on the board in my opinion.
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 21 = 20+1 "Not a top 10 Wonder"????? I respectful, and strongly disagree sir. Unless you mean not top-10, because it is top-5.
Venetian Arsenal = 25

 

[ViterboKnight]

Alhambra 10
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 34 - 3 = 31. Not a great Wonder, actually! Nice building and important role, but not a Wonder!
Colosseum 30 + 1 = 31. Because, as Italian, I've waited for it as a World Wonder for too long!
Cristo Redentor = 11
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Petra= 5
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 21
Venetian Arsenal = 25

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

Alhambra 10
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 31
Colosseum = 31 + 1 = 32 (Requires some annoying preparation but always well worth the effort and very strong when placed in the right location)
Cristo Redentor = 11
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Petra= 5 - 3 = 2 (Nope - way too situational. Powerful one time out of 5 doesn't make this a top tier wonder and building it is risky. Yes it's kind of fun to have but I'm not going to go out of my way to build it like I would for most of the others on this list)
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 21
Venetian Arsenal = 25

 

[Kimiimaro]

Alhambra 10
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 31
Colosseum 32
Cristo Redentor = 11
Eiffel Tower = 21
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Petra= 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - AI loves to build it in my games, so I can't get to it if I'm not playing as China. And it's, as the poster above me said, too situational. This place is good enough for it.
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 21
Venetian Arsenal = 25+1=26 - Very good wonder for domination, and since naval units ore OP, it's even better!

 

[Guandao]

Alhambra 10
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 31
Colosseum 32
Cristo Redentor = (11+1)=12 It's a wonder I try to build if I'm pursuing a Cultural Victory and have religion/relics.
Eiffel Tower = (21-3)=18 Seems like a good wonder for a Cultural Victory, but most of my tiles are improved by then (so no National Parks), and it needs to be built next to a city center (spaces which are often taken up by Apadana, Forbidden City, Aqueducts, or a resource I'm not willing to destroy).
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 21
Venetian Arsenal = 26

 

[gcareaga]

Alhambra 10-3=7: I don't rely on military policies much
Apadana = 24
Big Ben 31+1=32: double value and because I was too late to save Petra
Colosseum 32
Cristo Redentor = 12
Eiffel Tower = 18
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 27
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 10
Ruhr Valley = 21
Venetian Arsenal = 26

 

[Amrunril]

Alhambra =7
Apadana = 24
Big Ben 32
Colosseum 32
Cristo Redentor = 12
Eiffel Tower = 18
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 24 (27 - 3) A powerful but not game changing bonus at a time when you need to be building lots of other things.
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 11 (10 + 1) Since some diplomatic policies help you get envoys and othersreward you for having them, the ability to stack these policies is fairly potent.
Ruhr Valley = 21
Venetian Arsenal = 26

Moderator Action: Restoring Colosseum prematurely dropped -- Jon

 

[joncnunn]

Alhambra = 7 +1 = 8 Same as above; all free policy card ones should stay at least until top 10.
Apadana = 24
Big Ben 32
Colosseum 32
Cristo Redentor = 12 -3 = 9 Same as above; as a cultural one neither worth attempting to build on the high difficulty levels normally seen nor useful when captured from the AI.
Eiffel Tower = 18
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 24
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 11
Ruhr Valley = 21
Venetian Arsenal = 26

 

[gettingfat]

Alhambra = 8
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 32+1 = 33 (Even we don't count the money and great merchant points, economy policy cards are still the most versatile ones as you can choose to get faith, production, culture, and even housing and amenities even you don't want gold. It is valuable for any victory conditions)
Colosseum 32
Cristo Redentor = 9
Eiffel Tower = 18 - 3 = 15 (It is not game changing. Tile appeal doesn't make a big impact unless you play Australia. Seaside resorts help but are not critical for cultural victory.)
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 24
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 11
Ruhr Valley = 21
Venetian Arsenal = 26

Moderator Action: Restoring Colosseum prematurely dropped -- Jon

 

[Kimiimaro]

Colosseum disappeared:

Alhambra = 8
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 33
Colosseum = 32
Cristo Redentor = 9
Eiffel Tower = 15
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 24
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 11
Ruhr Valley = 21
Venetian Arsenal = 26

 

[larse]

Alhambra = 8
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 30 (33-3) Yes it's big. But maybe a bit overrated now?
Colosseum = 32
Cristo Redentor = 9
Eiffel Tower = 15
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 24
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 11
Ruhr Valley = 22 (21+1) Production, production, production. To have this one does free up other cities to make "softer" stuff.
Venetian Arsenal = 26

 

[LethalLeigh]

Alhambra = 9 (8+1) better than Alhambra in my personal opinion.
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 30
Colosseum = 32
Cristo Redentor = 9
Eiffel Tower = 15
Forbidden City = 29
Great Pyramids = 24
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 8 (11-3) not as good as Alhambra in my personal opinion.
Ruhr Valley = 22
Venetian Arsenal = 26

 

[DWilson]

Alhambra = 9
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 30
Colosseum = 32
Cristo Redentor = 6 (9-3; incredibly potent, but late enough that it is regularly unneeded. We are deep in enough that this is a worthy reason for a downvote)
Eiffel Tower = 15
Forbidden City = 30 (29+1; I truly think this is a competitor for first place)
Great Pyramids = 24
Great Zimbabwe = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 8
Ruhr Valley = 22
Venetian Arsenal = 26

Thanks mods for updating the results when I do not.

 

[Felis Renidens]

Alhambra = 10 (9+1) This way I can have a government that usually gives one military slot give me enough for two, which can save some money or help keep people happy.
Apadana = 24
Big Ben = 30
Colosseum = 32
Cristo Redentor = 6
Eiffel Tower = 15
Forbidden City = 30
Great Pyramids = 24
Great Zimbabwe = 13 (16-3) - Too situational and it's not that hard to get gold
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus 26
Oxford University = 13
Potala Palace = 8
Ruhr Valley = 22
Venetian Arsenal = 26