World Wonder Elimination Thread

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Alhambra = 17
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 17 + 1 = 18 (I like how it looks at night)
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 21
Great Zimbabwe = 22
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens =8 - 3 = 5. (The most useless one in the list)
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 14
Mahabodhi Temple = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 22
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 7
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal = 22
 
Alhambra = 17
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 17
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 21 + 1 = 22 (Who doesn't want extra builder charges? Plus it's easy to build and lasts for almost the entire game. Game changer!)
Great Zimbabwe = 22
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens =8
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 14
Mahabodhi Temple = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 22 - 3 = 19 (I've never built this and probably never will. I'll leave the desert to the AI who seem to love this wonder.)
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 7
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal = 22
 
Updated Values due to Eliminator_Sr missing King William I's post
Alhambra = 17
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 22
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens = 5
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 14
Mahabodhi Temple = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 19
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 7
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal = 22
 
Alhambra = 17
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 22
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens = 5
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 14
Mahabodhi Temple = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 19 + 1 = 20 I've seen Petra dominate some games. Play Australia with 1/2 your land on desert and the other half on grassland / hills / pasture. You can put outback stations on desert. Outback Station + Petra = fudging insane.
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 7 - 3 = 4 I've never been able to build this due to AI always grabbing it. You need military units early if you want to stand a chance vs barbarians.
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal = 22
 
Alhambra = 17
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 22
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens = 5
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 14
Mahabodhi Temple = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17 (20-3) I never get it
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 4
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal = 23 (22+1) that ww is vera nice
 
Alhambra = 17
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23 (+1) Can easily get at least +10, often +14 gold per trade route, including internal trade routes. Insane.
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens = 5
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 11 (-3) Alas, rarely enough lakes around to make it worthwhile, and rarely can get more than +2 amenities out of it. Lakes need a buff in general.
Mahabodhi Temple = 16
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 4
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal = 23
 
Alhambra = 17
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens = 5
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 8 (11 - 3) Being a niche wonder isn't inherently bad, but niche options should be able to surpass comparable (relatively) generalist options (Colosseum, Petra, and Chichen Itza in this case) in the right circumstances, and I have yet to see a map there that's possible for Huey Teocalli.
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 5 (4 + 1) It's odd to see this wonder so low without anyone questioning its power. The fact that it's hard to build reflects on the AIs front loaded bonuses, and its prioritization of a potent wonder, not on the wonder itself.
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal = 23
 
Alhambra = 17
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens = 5
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 8
Mahabodhi Temple = 16-3=13 - Too weak. The production isn't worth it.
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 5
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal = 23+1=24 - Great wonder for warmongering. Very useful in late game, when you gain Battleships and Missile Cruisers.
 
Alhambra = 17 +1 = 18 I just love any +slot wonder , sure this is the least interesting of the four, but it shouldn't be under 20 at this stage !
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens = 5
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 8
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 5 -3 = 2 DIE! I resent how hard it is to get a religion at higher level , Stonehenge is just one of the many reason why ! Instead of being the "gambler alternative" to the hassle of trying to get a religion the regular way !
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 24+1 = 25 Gotta throw another vote after my mostest favorite wonder.
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 20
Hanging Gardens = 5
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 8
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 22
Stonehenge = 2-3 = -1 ELIMINATED While not the worst wonder of the lot in terms of what it offers, its effect on the game is more negative than positive, so let's get it over with.
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 25
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17 -3 because I don't try to spread my religion that much. And even if I do 1 extra charge won't matter much.
Hanging Gardens = 5
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 8
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 23 +1 to the great industrial wonder.
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 25
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 6 (5 + 1) While the Hanging Gardens are doomed, they do help with population and work well with Feed the World.
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 5 (8 - 3) Minor bonus to 1-5 tiles of lake in my empire and 2 amenities, great...
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 24
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
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Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 25
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 6 (5 + 1) While the Hanging Gardens are doomed, they do help with population and work well with Feed the World.
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 5 (8 - 3) Very good with the 1-5 tiles of lake in my empire, great...
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 24
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24

I think you gave an extra point to Ruhr Valley. It was 22 before I added a point and set it to 23. Which is where it should stand. I'll put a corrected list:


Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 25
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 6
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 5
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 14
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 23
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 25
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 18
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 3 (6-3, unfortunately for the Hanging Gardens, growth is no longer the key yield. If this worked like V's ToA it might be slightly more useful, but housing prevents it from reaching it's peak value either way)
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 5
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 15 (14+1, if you're playing a relic heavy game, this can be very potent. Bonus points if you are either Poland or the Kongo).
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 23
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 25
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 21
Estadio do Maracana = 15 (18 - 3) comes way too late. Most games are won before it can be completed. If a victory is still that far off, you should probably be focusing on winning it rather than building this
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 3
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 5
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 16 (15 + 1) This is my favorite Wonder, appearance-wise
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 23
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 25
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 22 = 21 + 1 Very Niche, but Very Strong at what it does!
Estadio do Maracana = 15
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 3
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = 2 = 5 - 3 Too limited in scope and availability of meaningful terrain to build this 99 times out of 100
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 16
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 23
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 25
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 22
Estadio do Maracana = 16 (15+1) Yes, it comes too late in the game to be of much use. But I just like football too much.
BTW Why are Stadiums located in the Atomic era ? Football stadiums started to become a mass attraction already after WW I. Same I guess with baseball. The Modern era is imo much more appropiate.

Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 3
Hermitage = 20
Huey Teocalli = -1 (2-3) ELIMINATED just too much of a luck factor. Why not 1 amenity for every lake in your empire ?
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 16
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 23
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 25 + 1 = 26 (Sadly a wonder that I often miss, but it's worth it for the policy slot alone not to mention all the flexibility that doubling your gold allows)
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 17
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 17 - 3 = 14 (I usually have more great admiral points than I need and the trade route and extra gold isn't all that strong and I can easily get that from a CH)
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 22
Estadio do Maracana = 16
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 3
Hermitage = 20
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 16
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 23
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 

Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 26
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 18 (17 + 1) Yes it's almost impossible to get. But it turns a rainforest city into a powerhouse on the off chance you do get it.

Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 14
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 22
Estadio do Maracana = 13 (16 - 3) Pretty late, and frankly, amenities aren't that hard in that short supply late game unless you are doing some long term warring.
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 3
Hermitage = 20
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 16
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 23
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
Alhambra = 18
Apadana = 23
Big Ben = 26
Bolshoi Theatre = 21
Broadway = 18
Chichen Itza = 18
Colosseum = 24
Colossus = 14
Cristo Redentor = 20
Eiffel Tower = 22
Estadio do Maracana = 13
Forbidden City = 25
Great Lighthouse = 17
Great Pyramids = 22
Great Zimbabwe = 23
Hagia Sophia = 17
Hanging Gardens = 3-3=0 And Hanging Gardens is eliminated! There are plenty of other ways to get growth in Civ6, so it's not a necessary wonder
Hermitage = 20+1=21 A good wonder to build if one is aiming for a Cultural victory
Mahabodhi Temple = 13
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus = 22
Mont St. Michel = 16
Oracle = 17
Oxford University = 22
Petra = 17
Potala Palace = 21
Ruhr Valley = 23
Terracotta Army = 17
Venetian Arsenal=24
 
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