Would you like a new Era in the game?

[nokmirt]

The Renaissance was an age where superstition actually increased. There's a reason most of the art was religious. There's also a reason St. Christopher was a popular image. He's the patron saint that protects against sudden death. People thought they could survive the plague by continually keeping St. Christopher in their sight.

While it's true there's a line ending with Luther that includes Erasmus and other Renaissance thinkers, it also included Christian theological figures going back at least to Gerbert.

The Inquisition was nothing new. Let's not forget about the Albigensian Crusade. I agree about the corruption of the church leading to Luther but the very fact that indulgences were so popular demonstrates that people were very, very religious. I wouldn't conflate the Reformation time period with the Renaissance even if there is an overlap.

But perhaps this should be better reserved for the history forum. My only point is not to overstate the scientific progress of the Renaissance. History rarely, if ever, can be easily divided into ages. The Renaissance was more a period of transition than a sharp reawakening and break from the past.

Yes, I agree, the Renaissance was a period of very slow transition. That time period played a relevant role, towards progression which lead to The Age of Reason. Calling it an interim period of history certainly is understandable IMO. Because like you said, and your perfectly right, many things were going on prior to this reawakening, and after that were not very pretty. These issues with religion and free thought came to a head during the Renaissance (I simply jumble it together with the Reformation, my preference I suppose). To me it was a slow continual, yet absolute fight for progress. Thats why I feel its important.

The reason they try to organize history into ages, is to make teaching it easier. You can relate several points to a certain age to help students remember what they need to know.

As far as CiV goes I feel every age should be touched on. Though I do feel its important to stick to whats mostly relevant, and works well with the games design.

 

[nokmirt]

It's all really a notion of nomenclature whether the Renaissance is part of the Medieval era or not.

Modern history texts tend to not make that difference and put it in the Medieval era. Everything from around copernicus and onwards is called modern.

Clearly, for Civ we need more separation.

We do need seperation of different eras. Why not? The game will be more immersive and interesting.

 

[AriochIV]

While historically (and "fluff-wise"), an era of Enlightement would be fun, I think there might be some problems when introducing an additional era.

History is "fluff," now?

 

[Buccaneer]

I like some of the ideas of expanding Classical and perhaps shoehorning in an Imperial era. However, I despise anything to do with a future era and any texhs/units that may be associated with such.

Additionally, I was quite critical when they announced "eras" in pre-release Civ5. I had nightmares of the single worse feature (of many) in Civ3 where they forced you to research techs by eras. That pretty much destroyed the game. But as it turned out, I do live the why we have eras in Civ5 but I would not want any rigidity applied to them.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I don't think there's a single person out there that doens't agree on expanded Classical Era. Even I want it, but I do think it would be nice to have a new era that could be considered "paired" up with Industrial (like i stated before, Ancient & Classical, Middle Ages & Reinsassance and Modern & Future.)

 

[apocalypse105]

I don't think there's a single person out there that doens't agree on expanded Classical Era. Even I want it, but I do think it would be nice to have a new era that could be considered "paired" up with Industrial (like i stated before, Ancient & Classical, Middle Ages & Reinsassance and Modern & Future.)

I agree the classical era is ok all the other era's are also Ok I only hope they fix the damn research agreements and great scientists so it you don't blaze through the tech tree

because then there is no point in era's its just racing through

 

[Kurtbob]

Civ games have always had a fairly limited number of eras. Considering that different rewards from CSs and the cost of RAs increases each era, I don't see why they shouldn't add more eras. This was not true of previous Civ versions since entering a new era did not mean anything to the player (except a new look for their advisors/cities). Also, parts of the game go by way too fast (classic) and others feel way too long (renaissance). More eras would give the feeling of proggression and not being stuck in a particular era.

Who would like to see not just one era added but many?
A list to show a simple example:

Stone Age
Copper Age
Bronze Age
Iron Age
Low Middle Ages
High Middle Ages
Renaissance
Enlightenment
Imperial Age
Industrial Age
Information Age
Future Age

It’s not perfect and many eras/ages overlap (enlightenment, imperial, and industrial) and some don't allow for many techs (copper/bronze), but the game could be extended with the additions of many eras. I personally like a well drawn out game, but maybe that’s not for everybody.

 

[nokmirt]

Civ games have always had a fairly limited number of eras. Considering that different rewards from CSs and the cost of RAs increases each era, I don't see why they shouldn't add more eras. This was not true of previous Civ versions since entering a new era did not mean anything to the player (except a new look for their advisors/cities). Also, parts of the game go by way too fast (classic) and others feel way too long (renaissance). More eras would give the feeling of proggression and not being stuck in a particular era.

Who would like to see not just one era added but many?
A list to show a simple example:

Stone Age
Copper Age
Bronze Age
Iron Age
Low Middle Ages
High Middle Ages
Renaissance
Enlightenment
Imperial Age
Industrial Age
Information Age
Future Age

It’s not perfect and many eras/ages overlap (enlightenment, imperial, and industrial) and some don't allow for many techs (copper/bronze), but the game could be extended with the additions of many eras. I personally like a well drawn out game, but maybe that’s not for everybody.

I don't mind that either. I like a long drawn out game. Although, some people prefer to play many smaller games to try out different strategies. All the same, why not have several techtrees to choose from? Even a couple different ones would do. So everyone can play to their preferences.

 

[Kurtbob]

I don't mind that either. I like a long drawn out game. Although, some people prefer to play many smaller games to try out different strategies. All the same, why not have several techtrees to choose from? Even a couple different ones would do. So everyone can play to their preferences.

Very true. Perhaps you can choose a tiny, short, standard, or long tech tree much like choosing quick, standard, epic, and marathon game speeds. Would be interesting to have a marathon game on a tiny tech tree (each tech would be really important) or a long tech tree on quick (discovering hundreds of techs in only an hour of play would make anyone who likes immediate rewards happy).

A very cool idea. What would you consider the current tech tree's length? Short or standard? Maybe something completely different?

 

[anandus]

http://www.desktopreview.com/defaul...tion+v+5+gods+and+kings+expansion+pack+2k+gdc

an entirely new era and tech tree from the Great War (WWI) Era.

 

[CYZ]

http://www.desktopreview.com/defaul...tion+v+5+gods+and+kings+expansion+pack+2k+gdc

So the new era will be a WW1 era, but then, what is the industrial era?

Well, this is exciting!

 

[TimeWeaver]

I'm very happy that the late game gets some TLC with this new era and all, but I would have loved it even more if similar attention hade been given to the early game, more particularly, the classical era should be split into two, making that interesting part of history longer and more intricate.

 

[anandus]

Probably the classical age gets some upgrades.

One thing we know for instance is an added archer tech, as composite bows are in.

 

[AriochIV]

Probably the classical age gets some upgrades.

One thing we know for instance is an added archer tech, as composite bows are in.

Yes, it would be nice if the Classical era was expanded to two tiers.

 

[apocalypse105]

http://www.desktopreview.com/defaul...tion+v+5+gods+and+kings+expansion+pack+2k+gdc

the composite bowman as a new unit

so the classical ear will b e expanded

 

[janboruta]

I'm excited for the WW1-like era. More time to use your ironclads alongside new early planes. Sounds promising! Also in the screen we can see an earlier infantry unit (old model, but different unit icon), most probably to go together with the machine gun. Glad to see WW1 finally properly represented in Civilization, with early tanks and whatnot.

 

[Camikaze]

Surely they're not going to call it the 'WWI era', or the 'Great War era'? I can't really think of another name, but there must be something better.

 

[CYZ]

Surely they're not going to call it the 'WWI era', or the 'Great War era'? I can't really think of another name, but there must be something better.

Maybe it will be the imperial era still, though it doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how WW1 could not be in the industrial era. Unless they're just splitting that era up and giving it two different names.

 

[anandus]

Surely they're not going to call it the 'WWI era', or the 'Great War era'? I can't really think of another name, but there must be something better.

I hope not, but the bomber in that era is called "world war I bomber' ()

 

[janboruta]

Maybe it stays as Industrial era, and there is a sort of Enlightenment with Rifles put in there?