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Originally posted by Zor:
One day, you are scooped up by Q and you are given an option between living in one of these two colonies set up on an earthlike extrasolar planet colonized a few hundred years in the future, both colony (which were settled by STL colony ships) arrived about 75 years ago and decided to claim two diferent continents for themselves. Both have 200-300 thousand people living on them and have set about settling the choice regions of the planet (places with climates like Rome, Perth Australia or Buenos Aires) with a single major city with some industry and surrounding it for about a hundred kilometers is farmland and a few minor towns and cities surrounding it. Technologically things are not majorly more advanced than today, cars run on hydrogen, there are developing internets, video games have been produced, vacuum cleaners are all automated, Power needs are being satisfied via solar and coal power right now and most likely there is going fusion power stations in a few decades, Human labour is cheaper for manufacturing in a lot of sectors due to limited industrialization, agriculture is mechanized to roughly the degree it is today and while they have know how to produce spacecraft they are at are far from building any sort of spacecraft due to lack of industrialization in that area. However, they differ as such...
The First colony ship to arrive was funded and launched by Marxist/Leninists who desired to create a worker's paradice out of system. The colonists have orgenized themselves into a socialist state that is in many ways similer in its operation to the Pre-Gorbachev Soviet Union both economically (IE A command economy with state ownership of industry, money does exist, but only officially towards assigning worth in material goods to labour, not investing it to make more money) and politically (One central party that lords over the nation with censorship in place). However, there is a few key diferences. First off, While there is a small standing army it does not receive nearly as large a precentage of the Industrial output that the red army got in the Soviet Union. Secondly, agriculture is largely decollectivised. Thirdly, the central economic planning commitiee is not as prone to making massive Stalinistic quotas that are along the lines of "if the chairmen of the People's Supreme Council says there will be ten thousand tractors, there will be ten thousand tractors and damn the human cost" and try to set more realistic goals with input from local areas. Forthly, the same applies to censorship, its relatively tight but not stalin tight (if you say jokingly something unflatering about the weight of Mr Chairman of the People's supreme council, you won't be sent off to a forced labour camp for the next twenty years as a trator). Finally, they are more tollerant towards sexuality and religion than the Soviet Union was.
Arriving about a year afterwards was a group of Libertarians that have established a society with a very small limited government. Said government is a federal system that maintains public schools that go upto the 10th grade (that are grossly underfunded compared to Communist schools or most modern schools in the developed world), prints money, keeps property records, maintains a small military (less than 500 people and almost all of them are on reserve) and a few small police forces, but that is about it. As such, Taxation is very low for all levels. These are Secular Liberarians that don't care about sexuallity so long as its consensual and support freedom of religion. Drugs from dope to meth are legal for anyone over the age of 18 and the NRA would feel right at home with the freedom one has to arm oneself with anything up to morters and RPGs. THe majority of the means of production are privately owned There is no minimum wage here and while the proles can generally keep themselves fed and clothed, the average person is roughly in the PRC/Mexico level of income and if you end up unemployed, well you best hope that people have decided to be charitable.
Please note that here you are NOT a top executive of a major corperation nor a Major party member. You are you with your talents updated.
Which state would you rather live in and why?
Originally posted by Zor:
One day, you are scooped up by Q and you are given an option between living in one of these two colonies set up on an earthlike extrasolar planet colonized a few hundred years in the future, both colony (which were settled by STL colony ships) arrived about 75 years ago and decided to claim two diferent continents for themselves. Both have 200-300 thousand people living on them and have set about settling the choice regions of the planet (places with climates like Rome, Perth Australia or Buenos Aires) with a single major city with some industry and surrounding it for about a hundred kilometers is farmland and a few minor towns and cities surrounding it. Technologically things are not majorly more advanced than today, cars run on hydrogen, there are developing internets, video games have been produced, vacuum cleaners are all automated, Power needs are being satisfied via solar and coal power right now and most likely there is going fusion power stations in a few decades, Human labour is cheaper for manufacturing in a lot of sectors due to limited industrialization, agriculture is mechanized to roughly the degree it is today and while they have know how to produce spacecraft they are at are far from building any sort of spacecraft due to lack of industrialization in that area. However, they differ as such...
The First colony ship to arrive was funded and launched by Marxist/Leninists who desired to create a worker's paradice out of system. The colonists have orgenized themselves into a socialist state that is in many ways similer in its operation to the Pre-Gorbachev Soviet Union both economically (IE A command economy with state ownership of industry, money does exist, but only officially towards assigning worth in material goods to labour, not investing it to make more money) and politically (One central party that lords over the nation with censorship in place). However, there is a few key diferences. First off, While there is a small standing army it does not receive nearly as large a precentage of the Industrial output that the red army got in the Soviet Union. Secondly, agriculture is largely decollectivised. Thirdly, the central economic planning commitiee is not as prone to making massive Stalinistic quotas that are along the lines of "if the chairmen of the People's Supreme Council says there will be ten thousand tractors, there will be ten thousand tractors and damn the human cost" and try to set more realistic goals with input from local areas. Forthly, the same applies to censorship, its relatively tight but not stalin tight (if you say jokingly something unflatering about the weight of Mr Chairman of the People's supreme council, you won't be sent off to a forced labour camp for the next twenty years as a trator). Finally, they are more tollerant towards sexuality and religion than the Soviet Union was.
Arriving about a year afterwards was a group of Libertarians that have established a society with a very small limited government. Said government is a federal system that maintains public schools that go upto the 10th grade (that are grossly underfunded compared to Communist schools or most modern schools in the developed world), prints money, keeps property records, maintains a small military (less than 500 people and almost all of them are on reserve) and a few small police forces, but that is about it. As such, Taxation is very low for all levels. These are Secular Liberarians that don't care about sexuallity so long as its consensual and support freedom of religion. Drugs from dope to meth are legal for anyone over the age of 18 and the NRA would feel right at home with the freedom one has to arm oneself with anything up to morters and RPGs. THe majority of the means of production are privately owned There is no minimum wage here and while the proles can generally keep themselves fed and clothed, the average person is roughly in the PRC/Mexico level of income and if you end up unemployed, well you best hope that people have decided to be charitable.
Please note that here you are NOT a top executive of a major corperation nor a Major party member. You are you with your talents updated.
Which state would you rather live in and why?
. The same with rights to have morters and RPGs. 
If it is really libertarian, it will surely provide a more high quality of living. 
