WW2-Global

[Gallowglass]

Understandable, just struck me as odd considering how much aid the germans gave to Franco during the Spanish Civil War just prior to WWII. I mean some of the best german pilots cut their teeth flying support missions for Franco's troops. Again though the huge map looks awesome, I just started playing it as the Germans and it's great. Can't wait til we get the version with all the preplaced units present.

- Gallowglass

 

[oljb007]

Understandable, just struck me as odd considering how much aid the germans gave to Franco during the Spanish Civil War just prior to WWII. I mean some of the best german pilots cut their teeth flying support missions for Franco's troops. Again though the huge map looks awesome, I just started playing it as the Germans and it's great. Can't wait til we get the version with all the preplaced units present.

- Gallowglass

I forgot to mention this in my playtest report...

Gallowglass, I aggree; the "Blitzkreig" was practiced and refined in the Spanish civil war.

Rocoteh, in regards to wait time I found the game to load and pogress extremely fast compared to the 1.9 version (i last played 1.9). This may be due in part to not being completely finished.

 

[Hornblower]

Regarding the MG42

Okay I can see why you removed them then, thanks for the info. Though as far as olbj007's comment on armor ruling, in some of the lower tech areas like the Asian colonies with little industrialization MG units were pretty effective. Now and again an MG unit backed up by artillery can hold out against a armored or mechanized unit. But then again normally Armor is the exception in those areas early on, not the rule.

- Gallowglass

I support the introduction of an autoproduced MG unit for lower tech areas such as SE Asia. As we have seen by the last tweak to the scenario, island based civs have become underpowered. Perhaps an added MG flavour unit would assist these islands (Japan, Borneo, PNG). It just remains to be seen if you wish to favour Japan only or also the Dutch East Indies, PNG and US Phillipines. IMHO if the aggressor can initiatially take the city with the wonder in it they can reap the benefits of the defence from that island. That may help restore a little of the balance.

 

[Rocoteh]

Understandable, just struck me as odd considering how much aid the germans gave to Franco during the Spanish Civil War just prior to WWII. I mean some of the best german pilots cut their teeth flying support missions for Franco's troops. Again though the huge map looks awesome, I just started playing it as the Germans and it's great. Can't wait til we get the version with all the preplaced units present.

- Gallowglass

Gallowglass,

Thank you,

All Soviet units have been placed.
I will start to place Japanese units today.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

I forgot to mention this in my playtest report...

Gallowglass, I aggree; the "Blitzkreig" was practiced and refined in the Spanish civil war.

Rocoteh, in regards to wait time I found the game to load and pogress extremely fast compared to the 1.9 version (i last played 1.9). This may be due in part to not being completely finished.

oljb007,

The short load time is due the fact that trade have been
unflagged from airfields and harbours.
(Credit to El Justo who was the first one to find this idea.)
Some areas will still be connected, like Netherlands and Sumatra.
Wonders with airtrade here connect them.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Regarding the MG42



I support the introduction of an autoproduced MG unit for lower tech areas such as SE Asia. As we have seen by the last tweak to the scenario, island based civs have become underpowered. Perhaps an added MG flavour unit would assist these islands (Japan, Borneo, PNG). It just remains to be seen if you wish to favour Japan only or also the Dutch East Indies, PNG and US Phillipines. IMHO if the aggressor can initiatially take the city with the wonder in it they can reap the benefits of the defence from that island. That may help restore a little of the balance.

Hornblower,

I think that it sounds like a good idea that should be implemented.

BTW on autoproduced units: Bratislava will produce Slovakia Infantry.

Rocoteh

 

[IarnGreiper]

Rocoteh I have a suggestion. Add a resource on certain islands that is required to build MG units.

 

[Adler17]

That would be a better solution than autoproducing since that could cause problems.

Adler

 

[Rocoteh]

Rocoteh I have a suggestion. Add a resource on certain islands that is required to build MG units.

IarnGreiper,

Yes I will probably try that solution.

Minimum time to research a tech have been decreased to 4 turns.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

That would be a better solution than autoproducing since that could cause problems.

Adler

Adler,

Yes autoproduction should only be used in cases where its
need for it. When it comes to autoproduction of Machine-gun units
I think autoproduction can be combined with resource-related
production on islands.

Rocoteh

 

[Gallowglass]

Here's a thought Rocoteh, how about Infantry that is clased as reinforced by a heavy weapons component. If the AI has issues with autoproducing the MG units that might work better. Give them the same attack value and a few more points in defence and have them cost a bit more. Might prevent you having to add in new resources and complicate things too.

- Gallowglass

 

[civaddict098]

wow

How many people worked on this and how long did it take?

 

[Rocoteh]

wow

How many people worked on this and how long did it take?

civaddict098,

As scenario-creator I have as worked as "lone wolf" with this project.
Many, many days have been invested.

Of course this project could not have been evolved and have its quality increased without the playtesting done by main-posters such as:
Adler 17, andis-1, Bob1475, eaglefox, Hornblower, IarnGreiper,
and oljb007.

For complete list of credits check out page 1.

Rocoteh

 

[IarnGreiper]

Reich Midsummer 1942 Report:

Our campaign in south America was successful and we control the entire continent. Soon the last civil resisters in Buenos Aires will be squished. The enormous amout of enemy workers captured allowed us to buld the most impressive railway line the world has ever seen from Alaska to the South America. We are confident that the last gaps will be closed till August.
Meanwhile our combined forces have secured Hawaii. The Americans still display a major naval force at Midway but don t dare to counterattack because our air superiority will damage their ships if the lure to far away from Midway.
On the eastern front we have secured Kursk. Meanwhile the Soviets have invaded large parts of Finland. It s amasing who many tanks they can produce per week. However we made them fight us on our turf and they loose horribly to the Luftwaffe with our Panzers finishing off without any losses. In the end this should bleed them out. We shoot down about 6 fighter squadrons per week with no losses.
Heeresgruppe Süd has sucessfully seized Malta with the support of the 1st German fleet. The Canaries stay under our control after heavy fights with the French.

Japan has lost all Asia mainland cities. However with their forces not extending that much they have been able to consolidate their forces and successfully fought off an invasion of the Tommies near Kagoshima.

As it stands now the Reich is truely superiour in research thanks to our reseach labs all over Europe and America. However we lack interesting things to research. We mass introduced the Me262 as the new backbone of the Luftwaffe, ensureing true air superiority. The weak Russian planes can t even put a dent in them allwing us to opperate them without repairs for months. The Vergeltungswaffen V1 and V2 turned out to be wortless toys. We don t have high expectations on the Königstiger Panzer since it needs so many more resources.
We already fell behind the British in terms of armored units even if we count in our British tank divisions (reserve units in Deutschbritanien) and Panzergrenadiers. We however have better tanks with our backbone relying on Panthers and some Tiger Panzers. All Panzer IIIg have been shifted to armored reserve units in case of naval landings at the estimated hotspots. Their sole purpose is to slow the enemy in case of enemy landings.

The British Exile Empire is still our greatest threat besides the fact they lost some Korean positions to the Soviets. If the Brits would conentrate their armored units they could destroy either the Soviets or the Japanese with ease. Luckily they lack the ability to suprise attack us since our UBs patrol the pacific and the Gulf of Aden. Thanks to Kriegsmarine and airforce they are unable to build a sizeable invasion force in their Egypt ports.

 

[Hornblower]

US - v2.0 demigod

The SU has run rampant through Europe. In wk 30 of 1942 it had 197 T34/76's, 163 SU122's, 29 KV1's and absolutely bucketloads of infantry. War with Germany seesawed back and forth with the Sov's taking Poland and driving to the outskirts of Berlin. A simultaneous amphib landing from Norway destroyed Hamburg but failed to take a foothold in German occupied UK. The Balkans and France were also taken by the Soviets before a counterattack by the Germans fought them to a temporary standstill. The Germans attacked with 61 Panthers and 19 SS 1943 Panzers. A small force that did a surprising amount of damage but failed to regain much in the way of territory.
Fearing that the Germans would be neutralised in the same way that the Japanese were I undertook a mission to prolong German existence.

First I established an airbase on the Azores. 12-B17s and 12-B29s began the systematic destruction of Soviet armour to surreptitiously assist the Germans who were being pounded into submission. Soviet and German CAP was still surprisingly effective though and my air losses were high. Airpower alone would not help the Germans hold onto the rest of their cities.
24 Shermans, 24 Marine 1942, 12 US Heavy Artillery and 12 Heavy Artillery were embarked for a flying raid into Soviet held France.
Russian Bordeux was taken followed by Milan, Venice, Lyon, Paris and Rome and the rest of the Italian boot. In all of these I conducted a strategic withdrawal and allowed the Germans to take over. Why? Perhaps to give the Germans a fighting chance until I am ready to conduct a two front landing in Kamchatka and Europe.
The moment my forces landed the Sovs and Germans made peace.
By week 41 I had withdrawn down to Sicily. Italy is now restricted to Sardinia and Cyprus. I shall withdraw from the boot and amphib assault Sardinia. From there my forces shall establish a fortress and under a convoy system build up a massive invasion force. B29 and B17's shall conduct a continued bombing campaign against soviet armour.
Strangely the Germans raised Milan which was size 7. In fact city raising in Europe is still a problem with Lisbon, Gibraltar (size 1), Hamburg, Marseille, Wick, Plymouth, Stalingrad and Istanbul among others suffering from destruction.
Current figures show German armour slowly recovering with 29 Panthers, 31 SS43 Panzers, 32 StugIIIs and 120 something infantry. No panzergrenadiers though. German air CAP is extremely resilient with 21 HS219's. 2 Hindenburgs remain and took on my Iowa's that were in my medium sized SOD convoy. The Hindenburgs sunk anything that they engaged.
Current Soviet figures still show 170 odd T34's, 130 Su122's, 430 odd infantry and over 100 motorised infantry. T26's and the KV's are down to just 1 unit. I am slowly attriting their air units with CAP attacks of my own.

The Japanese no longer leave their ports apart from the occasional submarine. They are restricted to their island groups and have ceased offensive operations.
I have B29's positioned on an airbase located west of Dutch Harbour and South West of Midway as a covering force.... just in case.

Until such time as I develop armour that can come close to matching it with the SU and Germans my build up will be in the form of Heavy Arty and airpower.

The UK is restricted to Canada, the Malay peninsula, Australia and Africa and is flat broke and paralysed. The French are in a similar position.

 

[bgnewf]

Rocoteh:

I am a big fan of this and most of the other scenarios you have created. I have been trying something a little different recently with this scenario by using Argentina as an offbeat choice to play. I have managed to take all of South America (save for Georgetown) for Argentina in Emporer level, however it was an extremely difficult challenge. It took up into late 1945 to do the job without over extending myself.

In a previous scenario I think you created, there was the possibility of trading arms manufacturing licenses. I found it very frustrating to reach Air 1943 for example on the tech tree and still have the ability to build nothing but the regular air units as I had in 1939. Being able to trade arms manufacturing licenses would allow me as Argentina to trade/purchase for a license to manufacture for a time some of the more modern units that the smaller nations do not have access to. I think with a few Matilda's or some HS-129's I could have done the job of taking over all of South America in about two years less time than it originally took.

Keep up the great work as you have added months and months of fun gameplay to a game that's been out for a while.

Cheers
Bgnewf

 

[Rocoteh]

IarnGreiper,

Thank you for the report.

"The enormous amout of enemy workers captured allowed us to buld the most impressive railway line the world has ever seen from Alaska to the South America. We are confident that the last gaps will be closed till August."
IarnGreiper

Yes that must have been a gigantic force allocated!

"On the eastern front we have secured Kursk. Meanwhile the Soviets have invaded large parts of Finland. It s amasing who many tanks they can produce per week. However we made them fight us on our turf and they loose horribly to the Luftwaffe with our Panzers finishing off without any losses. In the end this should bleed them out. We shoot down about 6 fighter squadrons per week with no losses."
IarnGreiper

That is a very good rate.

"Japan has lost all Asia mainland cities. However with their forces not extending that much they have been able to consolidate their forces and successfully fought off an invasion of the Tommies near Kagoshima."
IarnGreiper

In version 2.1 Japan will have a stronger industrial base.

"We don t have high expectations on the Königstiger Panzer since it needs so many more resources."
IarnGreiper

The reason is that it represents the Waffen SS 1944 Panzerdivision and
thus should not be available in large numbers.

"The British Exile Empire is still our greatest threat besides the fact they lost some Korean positions to the Soviets. If the Brits would conentrate their armored units they could destroy either the Soviets or the Japanese with ease. Luckily they lack the ability to suprise attack us since our UBs patrol the pacific and the Gulf of Aden. Thanks to Kriegsmarine and airforce they are unable to build a sizeable invasion force in their Egypt ports"

Overall a very good strategic situation for you.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Hornblower,

Thank you for the report.

"The SU has run rampant through Europe. In wk 30 of 1942 it had 197 T34/76's, 163 SU122's, 29 KV1's and absolutely bucketloads of infantry"
Hornblower

That is a very impressing force!

"The Germans attacked with 61 Panthers and 19 SS 1943 Panzers. A small force that did a surprising amount of damage but failed to regain much in the way of territory."
Hornblower

These huge battles between AI-controlled forces are very interesting.

"First I established an airbase on the Azores. 12-B17s and 12-B29s began the systematic destruction of Soviet armour to surreptitiously assist the Germans who were being pounded into submission. Soviet and German CAP was still surprisingly effective though and my air losses were high. Airpower alone would not help the Germans hold onto the rest of their cities.
24 Shermans, 24 Marine 1942, 12 US Heavy Artillery and 12 Heavy Artillery were embarked for a flying raid into Soviet held France.
Russian Bordeux was taken followed by Milan, Venice, Lyon, Paris and Rome and the rest of the Italian boot. In all of these I conducted a strategic withdrawal and allowed the Germans to take over. Why? Perhaps to give the Germans a fighting chance until I am ready to conduct a two front landing in Kamchatka and Europe."
Hornblower

I think this was a good decision.

"By week 41 I had withdrawn down to Sicily. Italy is now restricted to Sardinia and Cyprus. I shall withdraw from the boot and amphib assault Sardinia. From there my forces shall establish a fortress and under a convoy system build up a massive invasion force. B29 and B17's shall conduct a continued bombing campaign against soviet armour."
Hornblower

This will be interesting to follow.

"Strangely the Germans raised Milan which was size 7. In fact city raising in Europe is still a problem with Lisbon, Gibraltar (size 1), Hamburg, Marseille, Wick, Plymouth, Stalingrad and Istanbul among others suffering from destruction"
Hornblower

I hope this problem will decrease with the new map.

"Current Soviet figures still show 170 odd T34's, 130 Su122's, 430 odd infantry and over 100 motorised infantry. T26's and the KV's are down to just 1 unit. I am slowly attriting their air units with CAP attacks of my own."
Hornblower

Its a mighty force!

"The UK is restricted to Canada, the Malay peninsula, Australia and Africa and is flat broke and paralysed."
Hornblower

I do not think they will be able to counterattack.

Thank you for the report and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Rocoteh:

I am a big fan of this and most of the other scenarios you have created. I have been trying something a little different recently with this scenario by using Argentina as an offbeat choice to play. I have managed to take all of South America (save for Georgetown) for Argentina in Emporer level, however it was an extremely difficult challenge. It took up into late 1945 to do the job without over extending myself.

In a previous scenario I think you created, there was the possibility of trading arms manufacturing licenses. I found it very frustrating to reach Air 1943 for example on the tech tree and still have the ability to build nothing but the regular air units as I had in 1939. Being able to trade arms manufacturing licenses would allow me as Argentina to trade/purchase for a license to manufacture for a time some of the more modern units that the smaller nations do not have access to. I think with a few Matilda's or some HS-129's I could have done the job of taking over all of South America in about two years less time than it originally took.

Keep up the great work as you have added months and months of fun gameplay to a game that's been out for a while.

Cheers
Bgnewf

Thank you for the positive words. I appreciate them.

As you say, playing Argentina in this scenario is extremely difficult .

On trading arms manufacturing licenses:

I have considered it for the new huge map version. The national resource
system should work well here.
Probably I will introduce it so Argentina and Brazil for example will be
able to produce weapons that earlier only were available to the
major powers.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[IarnGreiper]

German front report October 1942

Railway line from Chile to Alaska finished. 200 worker units of the Reichsbahn have been shifted to other duties. This helped in crushing down south American corruption as well. The last nests of resistance have been crushed.

We managed to cripple the US Pacific fleet by invading Midway in a suprise attack of 12 divisions. We managed to catch 11 US capital ships. However we have a massive lack of troops suitable for naval assaults. Our regular Wehrmacht divisions prove to be too weak for that kind of operations.

Our next objective will be Dutch harbour. We are most likely not to extent farther over the pacific to keep some space between us and the Royal Navy. The Tommies have made peace with the Soviets. Their navy rules the sea of Japan. However we use some outdated subs as reconaissance. Their recent landing in norther Japan failed despite they use multiple transport units for the first time. The city of Akita was razed during that campaign. Kagoshima remains a British stronghold.

The British Exile Empire now displays over 350 tank divisions. They recently agreed to a ROP agreement with the Bolchevists. Staligrad turns out to see the most brital action of the war. However with over 100 Wehrmacht divisions and 50 Luftwaffe squadrons it is a stronghold beyond believe. The Tommies seem to have sniffed that and try to circumvent the city and attack less defended cities deep in the Reich. However the Luftwaffe sows the seeds our Panzer divions harvest. With our absolute air supremacy we can wound the British tank spearheads and finish them of with our armored divisions at minimal losses. Last weak we destroyed not less than 47 armored divions (mostly British, some French, a few Persian and a lone Russian one). We are very satisfied with our Heinkel 177 bombers as they can kill weak Persian tanks at once. Our Panzer SS divisions are held as a backup against Soviet tanks since our Panthers are able to finish of damaged British tanks on their own.
However our defense efforts prevent us from using many troops offensively.