WW2-Global

[eaglefox]

Hey Rocoteh! Welcome back. I would like to congratulate you on having surpassed TGW in the number of replies section. One of the ways to determine the success of a scenario is by counting the number of replies and feedback it gets. And the way it looks right now, WWII_Global is still going strong. I haven't been able to get any play time in the last few days. Lots of other work. But I'll definetly get some in the coming days. Russia's war is going to be very interesting to play so I will certainly be forwarding my game. Let's see how it goes.

 

[Rocoteh]

Hey Rocoteh! Welcome back. I would like to congratulate you on having surpassed TGW in the number of replies section. One of the ways to determine the success of a scenario is by counting the number of replies and feedback it gets. And the way it looks right now, WWII_Global is still going strong. I haven't been able to get any play time in the last few days. Lots of other work. But I'll definetly get some in the coming days. Russia's war is going to be very interesting to play so I will certainly be forwarding my game. Let's see how it goes.

eaglefox,

Thank you.

I agree: Number of replies is a good indicator of how good
a scenario have done. One can also note that WW2-Global was launched
5 months ago while TGW was released 16 months ago.

Looking forward to reports from your next playtest.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Adler,

Thank you for the very interesting stats.

I think one can see two important trends when it comes to modern combat airforces:

1. Quantity is exchanged with quality. There are some 700 F-15 in the US airforce.
They will be replaced with 179 F-22. This is a trend that holds true in all airforces
in the world.

2. Service life is heavily extended. F-22 will probably have a service life of
40-50 years. Even the old B-52 bomber will be around beyond 2040!

In fact the above creates some problems for the coming WW3-Global scenario
by me and El Justo.
What shall be researched when current weapon systems will be operative
40 years from now?
To some extent the history of weapon systems have reached historys end!

Rocoteh

 

[Adler17]

I know that quality goes for quantity. However there might be points in which more quantity is better. And if a nearly 100 year old plane (then) like the B 52, which is still based (roughly) on the B 17 is questionable. However there isn´t the speed of developement making units earlier old. I mean a ww1 fighter was modern for half a year. A Me 109 and a Spitfire were enhenced all 1.5 years with new versions. And if you think the introduction of new planes like the FW 190, Me 262 or Typhoon then the time changed to several years. The F 4F Phantom was in Germany in service since ca. 1975. 30 years after not her but the MiG 29 was the first plane to be put out of action instead using the Eurofighter. She will stay in service until at least 2010. Then the plane will be over 50 years old (I mean the general concept). Also I think several times it is worth to buy more instead of some so called finance experts say. I mean our finance minister is so competent like an Eskimo scout in the Sahara...

Adler

 

[Adler17]

Also I forgot to mention: I think some old variants will reappear. For instance: Since the Iowa class is mothballed there is no real ship with sufficient firepower to attack shore areas, except some old CL in some 3rd world countries. The US are planning to build a DDG class with 155 mm guns. Germany tested the feasability of the MONARC project, a 155 mm PzH 2000 on a frigate, the Hamburg. With that gun shore bombardment should be no problem (range 80 km, new ammo in work to get these ranges!). This would be a good technology for ww3 as enhencing your ships.
Stealth ships and tanks are also thinkeable. Some more exotic projects like the Aurora plane. Or what about laser weapons and rail guns? A Leopard 2 with a 140 mm gun or 2 120 mm guns? There are some thinkable. However the more it is in the future the more speculative the technologies are. That´s why a game starting in 2006 is perhaps better in this category than a game starting in 2020. Okay a game in 2500 has less problems because of being Sci Fi stuff. I mean there are some good units linked here .
All in all I think it is more difficult to find new technologies the more it goes into future. The question is: When does the game should play?

Adler

 

[Rocoteh]

Adler,

I think a 2006-2008 start will be the best.

The scenario would then run 20-40 years.

Stealth ships, laser weapons and rail guns.
Yes, that is weapon systems that could be included.
I also think that the Battleship shall reappear.

On Science Fiction: In fact I should like to make a Science Fiction scenario.
Then I mean something like Master of Orion.
It should be possible to make a real good scenario within the current game-engine.

Rocoteh

 

[vlad1917_a]

Germany vs AI - Sid Level
Turn
My inital strategy continuous to works. It is just not so fast.
At turn 24 I have all Europe peace with Russian After taking Leningrad. Sweden and half of norvegians turks, teheran basra mut and Luxor 54 Panzers IIIe.
I have facing only one problem. Railroad building is to slow. Research is 0. So far alles advance only on 2 of them.

 

[allin1joe]

America DG 1.8

Week 42, 1940

I stole Land 1941 from the Germans so I finally have a decent attack tank, which I am currently mass-producing. Most cities can produce one in 2-3 weeks so I am filling up my transports with them fast. I am also producing US Artillery with a 40 bombard rate. I am currently researching Sea 1941 so I can get to Land 1942 and my Marine/Infantry upgrades. Right now, I have nothing that defends enough vs the German army.

My front in South America is progressing. I have taken Peru and am currently working on Bolivia. I am heading south enough to get to the roaded part of Brazil. Once I take Bolivia, I'll pause to let my rail net catch up, re-supply with some fresh tanks and infantry, then go after Brazil. My goal is to take all of South America by the end of 1941. Why? I wanted the extra production, and it's keeping me busy while I am building up for my European invasion.

I have established a beach head at Lisbon. After I took it, the Italians launched a fierce counter attack with about 20 tanks, but my Marines and Paratroopers were able to hold the city. My counter attack wiped out whatever tanks were left. Germany is still harrassing me with SS Infantry and Panzers, but not enough to really worry about. I started bombing Gibralter, but I was being shot down at a 100% rate so I stopped. I currently have my fleet back home to pick up re-inforcements. Once that fleet arrives, I will attack Gibralter from the ground using artillery and my ships to soften them up, then tanks backed up by Marines to finish them off. Once I have razed Gibralter, I will wait for Land 1942 so I have some good defensive troops and attack Spain so I can open my front with Germany.

Japan slipped some subs into the Atlantic, but my fleet made quick work of them. Portugal decided to send a destroyer to the east coast of the US, but it didn't last very long.

 

[Rocoteh]

Germany vs AI - Sid Level
Turn
My inital strategy continuous to works. It is just not so fast.
At turn 24 I have all Europe peace with Russian After taking Leningrad. Sweden and half of norvegians turks, teheran basra mut and Luxor 54 Panzers IIIe.
I have facing only one problem. Railroad building is to slow. Research is 0. So far alles advance only on 2 of them.

vlad1917_a,

It seems like a good start for the playtest.

Welcome back with more reports.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

allin1joe,

Thank you for the report.

"My goal is to take all of South America by the end of 1941. Why? I wanted the extra production, and it's keeping me busy while I am building up for my European invasion."
allin1joe

It sounds like a good strategy.

"Once that fleet arrives, I will attack Gibralter from the ground using artillery and my ships to soften them up, then tanks backed up by Marines to finish them off. Once I have razed Gibralter, I will wait for Land 1942 so I have some good defensive troops and attack Spain so I can open my front with Germany." allin1joe

A very interesting playtest!
I am looking forward to follow how it evolves.

Welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

I will soon go off-line and will be away for 7-10 days.

I hope that the general discussion on the scenario will continue
while I am away.

Rocoteh

 

[Snorken]

Have a nice trip, Rocoteh!

Here's a list of Waffen-SS divisions, in case anyone's interested.

1. SS-Panzer-Division "Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler"
2. SS-Panzer-Division "Das Reich"
3. SS-Panzer-Division "Totenkopf"
4. SS-Polizei-Panzer-Grenadier-Division
5. SS-Panzer-Division "Wiking"
6. SS-Gebirgs-Division "Nord"
7. SS-Freiwilligen-Gebirgs-Division "Prinz Eugen"
8. SS-Kavallerie-Division "Florian Geyer"
9. SS-Panzer-Division "Hohenstaufen"
10. SS-Panzer-Division "Frundsberg"
11. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzer-Grenadier-Division "Nordland"
12. SS-Panzer-Division "Hitlerjugend"
13. Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS "Handschar" (kroatische Nr. 1)
14. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (galizische Nr. 1, ukrainische Nr. 1)
15. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (lettische Nr. 1)
16. SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Division "Reichsführer SS"
17. SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Division "Götz von Berlichingen"
18. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzer-Grenadier-Division "Horst Wessel"
19. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (lettische Nr. 2)
20. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (estnische Nr. 1)
21. Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS "Skanderbeg" (albanische Nr.1)
22. SS-Freiwilligen-Kavallerie-Division "Maria Theresia"
23. Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS "Kama" (kroatische Nr. 2)
23. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzer-Grenadier-Division "Nederland" (niederlandische Nr. 1)
24. Waffen-Gebirgs-Karstjäger-Division der SS
25. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS "Hunyadi" (ungarische Nr. 1)
26. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS "Hungaria" (ungarische Nr. 2)
27. SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division "Langemarck" (flämische Nr. 1)
28. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzer-Grenadier-Division "Wallonien"
29. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (russische Nr. 1)
29. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (italienische Nr. 1)
30. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (weißruthenische Nr. 1, russische Nr. 2)
31. SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division ("Böhmen-Mähren"?)
32. SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division "30.Januar"
33. Waffen-Kavallerie-Division der SS (ungarische Nr. 3)
33. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS "Charlemagne" (französische Nr. 1)
34. SS-Grenadier-Division "Landstorm Nederland" (niederlandische Nr. 2)
35. SS- und Polizei-Grenadier-Division
36. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS
37. SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division "Lützow"
38. SS-Grenadier-Division "Nibelungen"

Got it from www.feldgrau.com and www.axishistory.com.

 

[Adler17]

Turn 7 week 44, part 2:
Bordeaux and Marseilles taken after heavy fights. HMS Nelson, 2 DD and a TR sunk in the Atlantic west off Ireland by the Luftwaffe. Also Belgrad is mine. The losses here are a bit higher than expected...
A Greek CDS is sunk by the Turkish BC Sultan Yavuz Selim while covering an invasion force. A Uboat and an Italian submarine are sunk by a US BB. Here is the bug again. The British bomb the North sea minefield.

Adler

 

[Gabryel Karolin]

Heres a brief report from playtesting with Italians on Demi-God level.

I decided at the ebginning that there were five major objectives that needed to be rached in order to reach my goal, which was Italian total domination of the Mediterranean.

1. Capture Marseilles
2. Corsica
3. Malta
4. Gibraltar
5. Suez

Week 37. Marseilles captured, well before the Germans make any sort of attack into French territory, imagine that!

Week 38. French and British battleships surge into the Med, Italian fleet retreats to the harbours and attac from there. Brussels are captured by the Germans, forcing the French to fight actively on two fronts. Germany declares Denmar war and taes Copenhagen. The British land a minor force near Marseilles.

Week 39. Corsica bombed to piecesand will soon be invaded, Italiansagain rule the Med. French Dhijibhouti captured and made a part of Italian Ethiopia. Sicily under heavy bombardment from Allied fleets. Poland conquered by Germany. We love the il Duce day celebrated in Marseilles FRANCE LIBERATE BRUSSELS!!!!

Week 40 Italy decides to try and conquer both Bordeux and Corsica next turn. the German Army have done very little at the French front except having managed to lose Brussels... il Duce shakes his head at the incompetent German generals (lol).

Week 41 Corsica burned to the ground, Italian supremacy in the Northern Mediterranean is now undisputed. Germany remains passive.

Wee 42 Bordeaux taken by the Italians, Japan advancing in the East. Germany finally manage to retake Brussels.

Week 43 Bordeaux razed for strategical reasons (within bombardment range of British navy), Italian main army moved to newly conquered Lyon. Germany is still passive, Angry letters are sent to the German military headquarters demanding to now what the heck is their problem. Spain seem to be playing both sides and are allowing a British expiditionary force including tank divisions and anti-aircraft units to enmasse at the Spanish-Italian border; this cant be tolerated.

Next step is to tae Malta, destroying the last Allied mid-Mediterranean stronghold leaving their navies open to attacs.

 

[eaglefox]

Germany vs AI - Sid level
Week 4, 1941

No action at all on my part. The Russians caused the British some problems in the Middle East. They have razed Baghdad and another city next to it and also taken Basra. Jaipur exchanged hands a few times between the Brits and the Japs. Currently in British hands. Britain now has 152 Vickers Mach guns, 84 British Infantry, and 117 Matildas. I am guessing the Russians will have comparable numbers. I have managed to amass 90 Panzer III g's myself. I think I can get to 150 tanks by June 22, 1941. Then I launch Operation Barbarossa. Apart from this nothing much to report. I actually had expected more from the Russians in their fight against the allies. Perhaps Field Marshall Montgomery put up a decent defence against the Russians. Hopefully this time I can destroy most of their forward forces without taking heavy losses, and continue with my offensive for atleast a few turns. Russia has been at peace with the allies for a few turns now and I am sure they are producing tanks everywhere. I'll have to use my airforce well to gain the upper hand. I have also added some aircrafts to my airforce and will continue to do so. Hopefully this time I can have some reasonable advantage in the air. That will be the key. The next time I report it'll be right at the start of Operation Barbarossa.

 

[eaglefox]

Germany vs AI - Sid Level
Turn
My inital strategy continuous to works. It is just not so fast.
At turn 24 I have all Europe peace with Russian After taking Leningrad. Sweden and half of norvegians turks, teheran basra mut and Luxor 54 Panzers IIIe.
I have facing only one problem. Railroad building is to slow. Research is 0. So far alles advance only on 2 of them.

vlad1917_a,
how are the russians behaving in your game? They don't seem to be very aggressive. Have they been at war with the allies? If so who declared the war on whom?
In my game they took all of Norway, Turkey, had a couple of wars with the allies and also one war with the axis. And they are freaking powerful always amassing huge stacks of T-34/76, T-26's, Mot. Rifle Divs, and Kv-1's to fight me. I just wanted to now if this is how they are behaving in all the special AI versions at SId level or just my game.

 

[Bob1475]

Germany v 1.8 SID

This is my first SID game and things seem to be going well. It is now the beginning of week 6 1942. I executed the same strategy I used in Emperor games - go for Russia first! I am at peace with Russia because all they hold is six cities and they are now passive although they were very belligerent for a long time. Same tactics as Emperor - Panzers and Air vs Russia, Panzers and Rockets vs Allies.

In the Atlantic I saw the most obvious difference between Emperor and SID in that it took much longer to dominate and I actually manufactured a few subs for a few months.

The French fell in late 1940 after I had pushed back the Russians.

The Japanese did very well although they insist on razing a disproportionate number of cities. This became so bad that I have had to wall them off from further action on the mainland. Just as well since they are having a hard fight with the Americans. Americans hold Kurile Island and actually took Osaka for a few turns. Japanes just took Labuan which I think was a tactical error since they should have taken the Phillipines first. They hold everthing up to Hue and a two cities in India.

Again copying my Emperor strategy - once the Russians were subdued I drove to split the British African and Asian forces by taking Iran. I set up a defensive wall against the African forces and cleaned up India and SE Asia.
Then turned on the British and took their Turkish cities and drove into the Suez. I have taken 9 French/British cities in Africa and my armor and rockets are destroying everything we can reach. Allies counter with Air but my forces are overwhelming.

I will continue this while preparing for the invasion of Britain. Landing in North America now becomes the primary goal. Africa can be cleaned up later.

I have stolen all Allied tech so now am moving my slider to more tech to see if I can get a lead with my large number of cities.

 

[x2legend]

Um, well this map looks great, and with all the talk on this board i would like to play it alot. However, when ever i goto play the first stages of the game when its loading over the all black map. Well this scenario stops at cofiguring scenario. I followed the steps given to installing, so it should work...Anyone know what im doing wrong?

 

[allin1joe]

Um, well this map looks great, and with all the talk on this board i would like to play it alot. However, when ever i goto play the first stages of the game when its loading over the all black map. Well this scenario stops at cofiguring scenario. I followed the steps given to installing, so it should work...Anyone know what im doing wrong?

Yeah, not waiting long enough Depending on your computer, it can take anywhere between 30-60 minutes to start the scenario, and the first turn can even take up to an hour.

But, if you can get the game to start, it's definately worth the time.

 

[Bobisback]

An hour thats being generous I waited 4 hour's for it to load and give up after that and just used the saves.

btw Bob1475 is there anyway you could post screenshots, sounds really cool.