I've been looking through the screenshots and I've noticed that it only shows the country names....which isnt as bad as I first thought it was...I just hope it has historical leaders like Hitler and Tojo. Second I noticed they took out the actual Nazi flag with the swastica, I can understand why but seriously its called history and all your doing is giving into the demands of a bunch of whiny pansies who can't understand history.
WWII .......what happened to history?
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Ishon
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Some idiots would protest that they're gloryfying Evil Ideologies. But for some reason Stalin and Mao Tse Tung, mass murderers of millions of innocents, have been in the game from the very beginning.
For some dumb reason Hitler is not in while Stalin is in. Maybe Firaxis has some pro-communist tendencies
. I'm a Pole and I have nothing against adding Hitler to a computer game. Actually I would very much like that, as much as I dislike the HRE in the game I've been playing for 13 years now.
For some dumb reason Hitler is not in while Stalin is in. Maybe Firaxis has some pro-communist tendencies
. I'm a Pole and I have nothing against adding Hitler to a computer game. Actually I would very much like that, as much as I dislike the HRE in the game I've been playing for 13 years now.
Aramazd
Deity
I don't see what the big deal is. It's just a game.
Ishon
Warlord
If it's just a game, let's make George Bush rule Germany. Hey, it's just a video game! Calm down, don't be whiny! Let's put a nation of Aliens in the middle of Europe, it's just a video game. It's for fun!
Mirc
Not mIRC!!!
It's just a game, no need to get angry over this. 
But also I don't understand what exactly are the civs "West Balkan" and "East Balkan", I mean the Balkans are the most ethnically diverse region in Europe! Though it is possible that I looked at the wrong screenshot, don't know. It was on the official BtS site though.
But also I don't understand what exactly are the civs "West Balkan" and "East Balkan", I mean the Balkans are the most ethnically diverse region in Europe! Though it is possible that I looked at the wrong screenshot, don't know. It was on the official BtS site though.
El Koeno
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People wouldn't buy it in that case. This is a commercial product, not a history lesson. But I guess every choice Firaxis made is completely wrong these days. Luckily one of their first decisions was to make the game as moddable as possible... so mod the game if you're not happy.
Ishon
Warlord
Mirc: It's just a game, no need to whine! Let's imagine there were "West Balkan" and "East Balkan" countries. Let's even imagine the Aliens started the WWII.
It's for fun!
It's for fun!
Ishon
Warlord
El Koeno is absolutely right, the modding is the best feature about Civ 4, together with the AI made by one of the modders (not by Firaxis, remember).
I know I'll love the AI and I love the fact that we can mod the . .. .. .. . out, including the Holy Romans and the Native American Unique Totems.
I know I'll love the AI and I love the fact that we can mod the . .. .. .. . out, including the Holy Romans and the Native American Unique Totems
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Thorbal
not enough ram!
Well - it´s forbidden in Germany to use Nazi symbols etc. except for educational purposes, that might explain to a degree.
Ishon
Warlord
Nazi symbols are present in computer games, just like communist symbols are.
It's forbidden in Poland to use communist/Nazi symbols, but it's no problem in case of a computer game (because it's for educational purposes and it's a historical simulation).
If you walk around waving a communist/Nazi flag, you will have a problem.
It's forbidden in Poland to use communist/Nazi symbols, but it's no problem in case of a computer game (because it's for educational purposes and it's a historical simulation).
If you walk around waving a communist/Nazi flag, you will have a problem.
TheLastOne36
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I say that's the answer.
Ishon
Warlord
I can't believe games with swastikas/Hitler in them are banned in Germany.
Exactly. While those would be dumb things to do. It's just a game NOT a documentry. If CIV was to take it to that extreme then I simply wouldn't buy the game. But, I can deal with a simple flag change. Anyone who can't deal with a flag change should stop crying themselves and face the fact that Firaxis chose not to include the flag.
Thorbal
not enough ram!
I think you can´t satisfy everyone from the German perspective in that regard. Of course it might seem weird ( but as everybody points out all the time, CIV is historically inaccurate in every instance, so it is NOT educational
) , but I just don´t want to imagine foreign press commenting on Germans playing around with " Nazi stuff" in their spare time. Games in general seem to be suspicious nowadays anyway. Wouldn´t be good PR either 
.Personally, I don´t care. Could have used the "real" symbols instead as well.
yes, what is the educational purposes when i crush my enemies with my mighty Panzers and rule the world?
it's a game and has nothing to do with education. it's not a book or something like that.
Ishon
Warlord
Yeah I also agree this is not an issue of top importance, now when we have the HRE and the Native Americans to deal with.
But I say real symbols are better than fake ones, and real leaders (Hitler) are better than fakes (the Evil Alien).
I think that fear of real symbols in historical games is ridiculous. Glorification of communism is forbidden in Poland, but I have never heard of any sort of complaint over a computer game with Stalin in it.
But I say real symbols are better than fake ones, and real leaders (Hitler) are better than fakes (the Evil Alien).
I think that fear of real symbols in historical games is ridiculous. Glorification of communism is forbidden in Poland, but I have never heard of any sort of complaint over a computer game with Stalin in it.
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