XIII's Far Eastern Historical Question of the Day

[Dann]

These towns all started out as mining operations by Chinese immigrant miners, before the British even claimed Malaya. They later grew into the large townships and cities of today

Oh. Were these the mines that developed clans and their own private armies and engaged in warfare amongst themselves? Seems redcoats were then requested by the local Malay rulers to quell these, paving the way for British occupation of Malaya. Anyway, not sure. Just heard that from some local friends when I was there. Were they correct?

 

[Dann]

Next question - Who introduced Legalism to the state of Qin, enabling it to dominate all after some decades?

Some guy named Lord Shang (Gongsun Yang)? Not that successful but he was the first.

The later ones, Lu Buwei, Han Fei, and Li Si did much better and thus became more famous.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Dann
Oh. Were these the mines that developed clans and their own private armies and engaged in warfare amongst themselves? Seems redcoats were then requested by the local Malay rulers to quell these, paving the way for British occupation of Malaya. Anyway, not sure. Just heard that from some local friends when I was there. Were they correct?

More or less, except that the clans, clan-based secret societies actually, were brought over fr China.

And it was the Malay rulers who 'requested' for aid - they had participated as well, on opposing sides. The British came in to restore order, because it was disrupting the mining of tin.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Dann
Some guy named Lord Shang (Gongsun Yang)? Not that successful but he was the first.

The later ones, Lu Buwei, Han Fei, and Li Si did much better and thus became more famous.

Shang Yang was the correct answer - he was a merchant fr some neighbouring state who brought the more sophisticated govt ideology to the backward Qin.

Next question - Where was the headquarters for the Imperial Japanese Army in SE Asia, during WW2?

 

[Dann]

More or less, except that the clans, clan-based secret societies actually, were brought over fr China.

And it was the Malay rulers who 'requested' for aid - they had participated as well, on opposing sides. The British came in to restore order, because it was disrupting the mining of tin.

Such...."interesting" times, to put it mildly. Musta been fun to be there.

Next question - Where was the headquarters for the Imperial Japanese Army in SE Asia, during WW2?

Singapore?

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Nope, it's Saigon. French Indo-China was the first SE Asian territory to 'fall' to the Japanese - the colonial administration there being pro-Vichy, therefore pro-Axis.

Next question - Sometime in the 10-11th centuries (or whenabouts), the kingdoms of Srivijaya as well as trading ports on the Malay penisular came under attack by this Indian state. Name it.

 

[LouLong]

Well there was a small kingdom of Indian origin in Southern Burma (djavarati or something like that) that was the closest but for trade reasons I would favor Chola in Southern India/Sri Lanka.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Yes, it was indeed the kingdom of Chola; they're on a drive to control the trade routes thru SE Asia to China. It didn't last though.

Next question - In what year, did the entreport of Malacca fell? To whom?

 

[pawpaw]

Originally posted by XIII

Next question - In what year, did the entreport of Malacca fell? To whom?

well i think it would have to be the dutch, but when 1620 ?

 

[Knight-Dragon]

No, not what I had in mind. It's my fault for not making the question clearer...

In what year, did the entreport of Malacca first fall to a foreign power? Which power was this?

 

[Knight-Dragon]

The year was 1511, and a fleet of Portuguese ships sailed for and captured Malacca, the most important port of SE Asia, in effect controlling the trade routes thru the Malacca Straits.

Next question - After the Jurchens came to power and overthrow the Qidan (Khitan) and then the Song empires in the 12th century, they made one disastrous strategic error. What was this?

 

[Knight-Dragon]

No one attempted...

The Khitans had ruled over the Mongolian steppes. The Jurchens OTOH withdrew fr Mongolia and concentrated on Manchuria and N China, after driving out the Khitans to the west. Big mistake. We all know who appear in Mongolia less than a century later.

Next question - Who was Arigh Boke?

 

[Giotto]

Mongol guy, one of two people who were supposed to be Khan or something after some dude died. Major issues for mongol empire ensue...

 

[Dann]

Sometimes considered the 5th and final Great Khan. Khublai defeated him and went on to establish the Yuan dynasty.

That's all I know.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Dann came closest... Essentially Arigh Boke was the youngest brother to Mongke, Khubilai and Hulagu; all great lords of the Mongol polity. After the (unexpected) demise of the Great Khan Mongke, Khubilai hastily organized a kurikiltai (sp?) that's considered illegitimate and made himself Great Khan.

Mongol traditionalists gathered around Arigh Boke and fought against Khubilai. However Khubilai managed to prevail, with his forces fr the China campaign and the vast resources of China. Arigh Boke was captured and executed.

Next question - During the Warring States period in China, which state occupied what's today the region around the city of Taiyuan?

 

[Dann]

Looking at the really vague map that I have, seems to be Zhao ÕÔ. Not sure though.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Ah yes, it's the Zhao.

What about the region around the mouth of the Yangzi?

 

[LouLong]

Qi ?

 

[Dann]

On my Warring States map, it says the area is already a part of Chu ³þ, with Yue Ô½ to the south. But IIRC during the Spring and Autumn period there was another state, Wu Îâ, here.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

I meant Yue actually... being at the mouth of the Yangzi. Chu was more towards the central Yangzi; Wu occupied the lower Yangzi. Chu later conquered Wu. Since you have a map, I'll have to ask another type of question...

Next question - Mao's eldest son was killed in which conflict?