XML Rebuild - Calling for help!

[black_imperator]

i started the unit file, and for now here is how i sort them :

Equipment Units

Heroes Units ( atm alphabetical, if you want something else tell me)

Civ UU

Religious UU

Summonable Units

Default Units classed by CombatType

Barbarian Units ( by civ)

for units that have several civs, ( blowpipe, verdandi, swordsman...) do i list them with default units or with one of their civ( the first met)

 

[lemonjelly]

Yeah, I'd put that and maybe put a comment next to their name stating the other civ/s they belong to.

 

[lemonjelly]

Is anybody doing BuildingInfos?

I would sort it similar to black_imperator's way above.

Wonders (Alphabetical)

Palaces (Alphabetical again)

Civ UB

Religious UB

Spell Buildings (Alphabetical again)

Default Buildings (Alphabetical again)

Misc Buildings (Alphabetical again)

That okay?

 

[Valkrionn]

i started the unit file, and for now here is how i sort them :

Equipment Units

Heroes Units ( atm alphabetical, if you want something else tell me)

Civ UU

Religious UU

Summonable Units

Default Units classed by CombatType

Barbarian Units ( by civ)

for units that have several civs, ( blowpipe, verdandi, swordsman...) do i list them with default units or with one of their civ( the first met)

That sounds fine. For UU's that aren't entirely unique, I'd do it like multi-civ leaders: Put them with the first civ they fall into alphabetically. So the Doviello would get Verdandi, not Elohim.

Yeah, I'd put that and maybe put a comment next to their name stating the other civ/s they belong to.

If you check the promotioninfos file (hit Alt + 3 to see it easily) each section should have a start/end point in the comment line for the first/last entry.

Like this:

        <!-- Angel -->                        <!-- Start Racial Promotions -->
        <!-- Undead -->                        <!-- End Racial Promotions -->

Is anybody doing BuildingInfos?

I would sort it similar to black_imperator's way above.

Wonders (Alphabetical)

Palaces (Alphabetical again)

Civ UB

Religious UB

Spell Buildings (Alphabetical again)

Default Buildings (Alphabetical again)

Misc Buildings (Alphabetical again)

That okay?

Yeah, that would be fine with me.

 

[lemonjelly]

        <!-- Angel -->                        <!-- Start Racial Promotions -->
        <!-- Undead -->                        <!-- End Racial Promotions -->

I was talking about this sort of thing

        <!-- Verdandi -->                        <!-- Elohim As Well -->

Yeah, that would be fine with me.

I shall retire to my top secret lab and cast the spells of re-arranging then.

 

[Valkrionn]

I was talking about this sort of thing

        <!-- Verdandi -->                        <!-- Elohim As Well -->

Ah, missed that. Yeah, that would work.

I shall retire to my top secret lab and cast the spells of re-arranging then.

 

[black_imperator]

unitinfos.xml is done

 

[Valkrionn]

Awesome, thanks!

 

[Valkrionn]

unitinfos.xml is done

Hehe, one thing I've noticed: The 'uber gnosling' is not a Kahdi UU, but actually used as a mana guardian.

 

[Valkrionn]

unitinfos.xml is done

Actually, your file seems to be causing me crashes. Is it doing the same on your end?

 

[black_imperator]

working without any issues for me, i tried before uploading it, you have a message before the crash ?

 

[Valkrionn]

None at all, it's an instant crash on loading. I hadn't added anything to Unitinfos that the game would be relying on, so I'm not sure why it's crashing.

 

[shoggi]

I'm looking into SpellInfos at the moment.
Is there an particular way it should be sorted except for Worldspells/Everything Else?
If not, than thats going to be easy work. Just have to sort the newer stuff.

 

[sylvain5477]

Actually, I was thinking to seperate ablities from spells, wrld spell also in one section, apart from that one block per civ specific and alphabetical order.

But Valkrion may want something different

 

[shoggi]

I was thinking about that too.
Then one possibility would be:
Worldspells
Civ Spells (grouped by civ)
Civ Abilities (grouped by civ)
Religious Spells (grouped by religion)
Religious abilities (if there are any)
Other spells
Other abilities

But then there is the question about the copied spells, for various civilizations.
I mean, theres like 5 versions of scorch, for malakim, jotnar, ordo. ect.
Should that be grouped with the other scorch (thats what I would do) or with the civ.
And you could argue to keep the spells spheres together, instead of sorting the spells alphabetically, so death 1-3 for example are one after the other.

 

[sylvain5477]

I was thinking about that too.
Then one possibility would be:
Worldspells
Civ Spells (grouped by civ)
Civ Abilities (grouped by civ)
Religious Spells (grouped by religion)
Religious abilities (if there are any)
Other spells
Other abilities

But then there is the question about the copied spells, for various civilizations.
I mean, theres like 5 versions of scorch, for malakim, jotnar, ordo. ect.
Should that be grouped with the other scorch (thats what I would do) or with the civ.
And you could argue to keep the spells spheres together, instead of sorting the spells alphabetically, so death 1-3 for example are one after the other.

So many ways
Maybe better Valkrion tell what he's looking for

 

[Monkeyfinger]

Dibs on writing up the Khazad and Austrin for now, I could also do the Jotnar but they seem really popular and I have a feeling I'd be stealing from someone interested if I claimed them.

It might be better to create a new concept category called "changes to original civilizations" and sort the civs alphabetically in it. This gives us a convenient place to find them all, as well as a place to put changes to civs which were only mildly tweaked (Lanun, elves). Full writeups would go in the section for the civs themselves, not in the concepts section. Don't a bunch of the old crew have these writeups already?

 

[Valkrionn]

I was thinking about that too.
Then one possibility would be:
Worldspells
Civ Spells (grouped by civ)
Civ Abilities (grouped by civ)
Religious Spells (grouped by religion)
Religious abilities (if there are any)
Other spells
Other abilities

But then there is the question about the copied spells, for various civilizations.
I mean, theres like 5 versions of scorch, for malakim, jotnar, ordo. ect.
Should that be grouped with the other scorch (thats what I would do) or with the civ.
And you could argue to keep the spells spheres together, instead of sorting the spells alphabetically, so death 1-3 for example are one after the other.

I would do it this way:

Worldspell
Civ Spells
Civ Abilities
Religious Spells
Spells by Spellsphere
Other Spells (Alphabetical, doubt there will be many)
Other Abilities

Dibs on writing up the Khazad and Austrin for now, I could also do the Jotnar but they seem really popular and I have a feeling I'd be stealing from someone interested if I claimed them.

It might be better to create a new concept category called "changes to original civilizations" and sort the civs alphabetically in it. This gives us a convenient place to find them all, as well as a place to put changes to civs which were only mildly tweaked (Lanun, elves). Full writeups would go in the section for the civs themselves, not in the concepts section. Don't a bunch of the old crew have these writeups already?

I'm actually thinking we can remove the original BtS concept section and put Civ writeups there.

So far the Malakim and Doviello have concept sections (will need some slight updating) as do the Frozen. Some of the original civs have small sections, but nothing near what I'd like. Take a look at the Malakim section. That's just changes from the base Malakim.

 

[sylvain5477]

You see I carefully dispatch unitinfo to black_imperator and spell nfo to shoggi (they asked) so I won't actually be doing anything

 

[xienwolf]

Maybe Civ Spells (Abilities) instead of Civ Spells, then Civ Abilities? Meaning:

Amurite Spells
Amurite Abilities
Bannor Spells
Bannor Abilities
.
.
.

Instead of:

Amurite Spells
Bannor Spells
.
.
.
Amurite Abilities
Bannor Abilities