Your rights to Freedom of Speech don't apply here

[thestonesfan]

What city or town doesn't have a public forum?

And there is always the courtroom.

 

[thestonesfan]

The government can boot you out of places as surely as any private citizen. This is really a non-issue. Those who own nothing will always be at the mercy of those that do. If you want a medium for spreading your message, you must have something to offer to someone who can give it to you.

At least in a capitalist society, if people want to hear what you have to say, it wouldn't be too hard to find a benefactor that allows you to better get your message out. In a socialist society, it only matters if the state likes what you have to say.

Lets stop and consider who has the brutal history of supressing rights, including that of freedom of speech - the state or your peers?

This is no flaw with capitalism.

 

[PHSikes]

With Capitalism you can say.'I think you are an idiot, me and my money are out of here.'

 

[The Last Conformist]

Lets stop and consider who has the brutal history of supressing rights, including that of freedom of speech - the state or your peers?

[Sound of hard thinking]
Um, both?

 

[PHSikes]

Lets stop and consider who has the brutal history of supressing rights, including that of freedom of speech - the state or your peers?QUOTE]

HHHMMMMMMMM....Tar and Feather, run out of town on a rail, strung up, lynched, beat, shot...or "taken to the place of execution and hung by the neck until you are dead"



or did i misread it?

 

[thestonesfan]

HHHMMMMMMMM....Tar and Feather, run out of town on a rail, strung up, lynched, beat, shot...or "taken to the place of execution and hung by the neck until you are dead"

or did i misread it?

I don't know. What point are you trying to make?

 

[PHSikes]

peers VS. state methods

 

[Duddha]

I concur. However, the desire of some people to not only express their opinion, but to do so in a way which will most effectively disrupt the events themselves (and thus get their opinion displayed as a story on the evening news), can't be discounted.

I think if the media actually gave flak to large peaceful and nondisruptive protests there wouldn't be a need for that sort of thing.

 

[RedWolf]

In high school when a group of us once tried to stand up for the constitutional rights of fellow students (ie: freedom against unreasonable search and seizure, freedom of speech, innocent until proven guilty) we were told by the school's administration: "As soon as you walk through those doors the charter of rights and freedoms no longer applies to you."



It was a good try.

(Although I've yet to see the "except in high school" clause in our charter.)

 

[Desmond Hawkins]

What is ridiculous is the amount of public places where things like, freedom of demonstration are not allowed.

 

[Benderino]

Since public school's are government controlled, doesn't that mean that freedom of speech still applies on campus?

 

[RedWolf]

Since public school's are government controlled, doesn't that mean that freedom of speech still applies on campus?

Apparently not.

Our school used to be able to suspend you for smoking "in sight of school property". (Even though under age smoking isn't actually illegal according to law).

Schools do whatever they want and generally get away with it.

 

[Benderino]

Yeah, that's true. There are dress codes, no smoking rules, and a plethora of things that are taboo to say.

 

[Tassadar]

Yeah, that's true. There are dress codes, no smoking rules, and a plethora of things that are taboo to say.

It is their job to condition human brain for factory work, yes boss, yes boss, yes boss. These are your only freespeach in workplace.

 

[Benderino]

Well, to be fair, our high school doesn't spew out blue collar grunts. About 95% of us go on to college, and it's assumed we'll all be the boss giving the orders some day, not the other way around.

 

[Tassadar]

Well, to be fair, our high school doesn't spew out blue collar grunts. About 95% of us go on to college, and it's assumed we'll all be the boss giving the orders some day, not the other way around.

Unless you own you compagny, you will always have a boss over you. I have seen many boss fired, as well as plant manager, as well as production manager.

Appreciate your college time, beleive me.

 

[cgannon64]

Apparently not.

Our school used to be able to suspend you for smoking "in sight of school property". (Even though under age smoking isn't actually illegal according to law).

Schools do whatever they want and generally get away with it.

I always thought that was a myth? Or is it true that underage smoking isn't illegal, just underage purchasing?

 

[RedWolf]

I always thought that was a myth? Or is it true that underage smoking isn't illegal, just underage purchasing?

In Canada underage smoking is NOT illegal. Cops cannot give you a fine for lighting up. It's illegal to sell to minors and illegal to give them to minors. If a minor purchases smokes the store owner is breaking the law.. not the minor.

 

[cgannon64]

Now if only the same were true for alcohol...

 

[Tassadar]

Now if only the same were true for alcohol...

In canada it is, you can drink all your father's beers and not getting a fine, you may get something else.... but not a police fine.