Zimmerman Not guilty

[Archbob]

So apparently:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Its ok to shoot someone if they're black and wearing a threatening hoodie.

 

[Kyriakos]

hm, interesting development.

 

[albie_123]

We already have a thread on this.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=12603059

And if that's what you think this case was about, you obviously haven't been watching it.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Fortunately, I can probably still wear threatening hoodies unless someone like George Zimmerman mistakes my race.

 

[MobBoss]

So apparently:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Its ok to shoot someone if they're black and wearing a threatening hoodie.

For you to say this is proving you didn't watch the trial at all. All the evidence in that trial supported Z's story. Even the gunshot experts forensic evidence.

This kind of comment is exactly the kind of thing that will get riots going. Its both irresponsible and uneducated.

 

[Archbob]

Sorry, but Zimmerman's own statements and "fluffy" memory were so inconsistent, I don't know how anyone could have actually believed him.

 

[Goodfella]

Just because you bought the original narrative (as I did myself) doesn't mean it's too late to change the stance. Everything went for Zimmerman. I cannot honestly say that I believe Trayvon was profiled and hunted like the OP indicates. And if you don't believe Zimmerman, why don't you believe the rest of the evidence and testimonies? Did they lie too?

 

[Formaldehyde]

Because there is obviously nothing actually wrong with that "narrative" other than it could not be proven sufficiently in a court of law? That if the citizens of Retreat View Circle in that area had not been so scared to get involved that none of this would have even occurred? That their inaction was largely responsible for the death of an innocent black child?

 

[bhsup]

So apparently:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Its ok to shoot someone if they're black and wearing a threatening hoodie.

Good, because this country is for pale skinned honkies only.
(hey, if you can say dumbass stuff, so can I)

 

[Archbob]

According to the police report the victim:

no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter

Zimmerman did not wait for the police to arrive, he for some reason had to have a violent encounter with the kid and shoot him. The kid was also unarmed.

The kid was on foot, Zimmerman was in his vehicle. An unarmed kid is not going to assault a man in a vehicle in a gated neighborhood unless he was either being tailed or threatened by the guy in the vehicle.

Neither Zimmerman or Martin's history is anything to brag about, with Martin being busted for thievery and Zimmerman with assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest.

 

[Goodfella]

Because there is obviously nothing actually wrong with that "narrative" other than it could not be proven sufficiently in a court of law?

Oh yeah, totally, there's nothing wrong with it...other than a lack of sufficient proof.

 

[nc-1701]

I think this might actually be an example of our criminal justice system working properly...

Zimmerman is probably guilty, but we don't send people to prison for what probably happened, we only do that if we are sure beyond reasonable doubt.


That said he clearly F'ed up somewhere along the line and a minor felony charge for something along the lines of threatening/playing cop/instigating the situation may well have been appropriate.

 

[albie_123]

I think this might actually be an example of our criminal justice system working properly...

Zimmerman is probably guilty, but we don't send people to prison for what probably happened, we only do that if we are sure beyond reasonable doubt.

Agree with almost everything but I don't think "probably" is really a fair interpretation of the evidence.

Just compare closing arguments.

 

[emzie]

As not guilty as Casey Anthony.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Oh yeah, totally, there's nothing wrong with it...other than a lack of sufficient proof.

That hardly makes it untrue.

I think this might actually be an example of our criminal justice system working properly...

Zimmerman is probably guilty, but we don't send people to prison for what probably happened, we only do that if we are sure beyond reasonable doubt.

Exactly.

That said he clearly F'ed up somewhere along the line and a minor felony charge for something along the lines of threatening/playing cop/instigating the situation may well have been appropriate.

That is hardly appropriate for taking someone's life when you weren't actually in any danger of dying or being seriously hurt before the police arrived.

 

[Goodfella]

That hardly makes it untrue.

Yeah, why let a lack of sufficient proof get in your way? Who needs proof anyway?!

 

[Formaldehyde]

Do you have "proof" that evolution or gravity as we know it now are quite likely true? Do you have "proof" that OJ is a murderer?

 

[Goodfella]

Do you have "proof" that evolution is quite likely true? Do you have "proof" that OJ is a murderer?

Well sufficient proof to both yes which is why I believe in both. Tell me, what compels you to believe in evolution? Why do you reject young earth creationism? Could it be for...uh I dunno, a lack of proof that the world is 6,000 years old? A lack of proof that humans roamed the earth at the same time as dinosaurs? Whereas there exists sufficient proof that the world is 4.54 billion years and sufficient proof that humans and dinosaurs lived 65 million years apart from each other. And sufficient proof that there have existed a host of species that can be used to trace the evolution of humans (and many other species for that matter) to their present form?

 

[squadbroken]

 

[Kennigit]

a reverse OJ, pretty sweet

I dunno, I don't know the full details of the case but I'm surprised the jury didn't go for some manslaughter since the judge allowed them too

I mean, don't people get manslaughter all the time? Normally plead guilty I assume ("yes I hit that person with my car") and settle out of court but something kind of irks me that you can just shoot someone by getting out of your vehicle running errands