Traitorfish

Traitorfish

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  • aelf
    To be honest, I think I may have a somewhat skewed view owing to the manner in which Marxism was introduced to me, which didn't dwell on the late Marx for very long if at all. I also have about equal grounding in liberal political theory, so I find myself constantly juxtaposing that with Marxist political theory. Clearly, I'm not the guy to consult when looking for orthodoxy.
    RedRalph
    This book is great too, it's about the man and his life rather than being an academic study of Marxism, but you'd probably like it anyway!
    RedRalph
    Couldn't suggest anything on the academic level, no... I'm nowhere near as schooled on the man as Cheezy is, but this is a very good book for a basic introduction.
    aelf
    Introductory? I'm afraid I can't really help you with that, other than recommending the obvious like The Communist Manifesto. I was thrown into the deep end as one of the first things I had to read was Capital, followed probably by Horkheimer's Critical Theory with various essays thrown in between.

    Lukacs is a good bet, I think. Maybe Althusser? AFAIK, not all that orthodox, though, if that's what you're looking for.
    Cheezy the Wiz
    Rather like Brecht. I knew what I believed, but not why it was so. Marx has provided me with that explanation in scientific terms. His arguments are not based upon morality, but upon actuality; Christian socialists said equality was good because we're all God's creatures, etc etc, which is all and good, but it hinges upon the existence of God and the uniqueness of Man in that specific respect. Its vulnerable. Marxism is built upon observations of material relations, it is a social science.
    Cheezy the Wiz
    Well the nice thing about Capital is that Marx spells it out all simple for you. The only issue is that its truly colossal. Different treatments of Marx either cut out the "unimportant stuff" or expand upon specific things he talked about, or critique them. Its not an overly scholarly text, there is zero learning curve for reading it. Remember, it is "the Working Man's Bible." :)
    Cheezy the Wiz
    Sgt. Cribb will disagree with me somewhat, but History and Class Consciousness by Georg Lukacs should serve you excellently in the philosophical context (its subtitle is Studies in Marxist Dialectics). On the economic end, Introduction to Marxist Economic Theory by Ernest Mandel ought to be adequate, as I'm sure the massive Capital with deter you with its sheer size. I'm halfway through Volume 1 of 3, and its still intimidating!
    Takhisis
    Hey, wind-up merchant… do the English really get pedicured? I only clip my toenails enough so that i can put on shoes and play some football… as catenaccio-style sweeper, obviously ;)
    Lord of Elves
    Hey, I was just wondering, you seem to be pretty learned in matters of gender and gender perception, do you find the field interesting, or do you yourself consider yourself outside the "norms" of gender, or know anyone who considers themselves outside of that?
    Takhisis
    Yeah, well… all we need to do is dig a moat a mile wide on the Ingerlish side of the border. And/or extermiante all the Ingerlish.


    I love David Mitchell…
    'The thought of being able, even tangentially, to blame bad weather on the BBC is enough to make some tabloid editors have an erotic accident.'
    Takhisis
    You traitorous fish!!! :rolleyes:

    Do you happen to know that people from any point in the whole archipelago are called 'ingleses' here? It's very annoying at times… I remember having to me and Dad having to give our names when attending some sort of meeting and the man at the door said 'that name's English, right'? [pissed]
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