Traitorfish

Traitorfish

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    Oh so you had in mind different nations. I had in mind different towns or states within the same nation. And yes, different nations are a different issue entirely.

    Didn't Adolf Hitler try to get rid of all the Jews before he started killing them?

    And I was using "Tyranny" in a lighter, libertarian sense, as well. By my definition pretty much every country is tyrannical:p
    G
    Really?

    I don't get what you're argung now.

    Its not very hard to move a few miles away. Its pretty hard to move a few hundred.

    Therefore, if tyranny must be accepted, its better to be at a local level.

    I think a mistake "Pro-Centralization" people make is that they assume they can just say "The Federal government should do this" but I can't say "The local governments should all do this." In most cases, both are unlikely to actually happen.
    G
    I was both providing an explanation as to why Ron Paul (And Rothbard) hold their decentralization views and defending Ron Paul as a libertarian.

    Your argument seems to be that Ron Paul "Supports tyranny as long as its state-level" which is not what he's said at all.
    G
    From what I've seen there's some dispute between right-libertarians as to whether centralization is ever OK. Rothbard said no, while Walter Block made the claim that the fear of Federal expansionism of power didn't matter, that if an action (Since he was an ancap, that would be simply the repealing of a lower-level action) was justified, it didn't matter who did it. I can certainly see the merit of both sides, but to claim that just becasue you give the Federal government the power it will use it the way you want it to is a mistake. If the Federal government can legalize anything nationwide, it can also illegalize it nationwide. Decentralization does nothing more or less than making tyranny easier to escape.

    Hence why, I, and I believe Ron Paul as well, support it.
    G
    The uniqueness of Ron Paul's position is that he almost always votes no to everything. Even if you think that that's just so the states can oppress people more (Although that doesn't fit his own philosophy at all) he still votes no to nearly everything, so if you're trying to destroy the Federal government than voting for him would make much more sense than voting for anyone else:p
    G
    I wanted to ask another unrelated question; you seem willing enough to defend Rothbard as a legitimate libertarian, even if you disagree with his views on property. You think Ron Paul is just an authoritarian pretender (Or something, I don't really know what position you are trying to devise.) In that case, why do you think it is that Rothbard, and the majority of those who subscribe to a Rothbardian philosophy, supported Ron Paul?
    Cheezy the Wiz
    I called upon you to help me in a recent post in our thread. I need help explaining how labor value relates to time invested.
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