So originally religion was planned for Civ5, but apparently they took it out.

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An interesting article at Apolyton about the remnants of religions in Civ5 :)
And no, it are not leftovers from Civ4's xml's or anything.

Have a look :)

Eight religions are named in the source files: Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Polytheism, Shintoism, Spiritualism and Zoroastrianism.

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After completing a shrine the game would tell you: "You have completed a majestic Shrine in CityName to honor ReligionName! You may now train Missionaries there to spread the faith." Other lines found in the language-files are, ao.: "By completing your empire's Shrine, you may now adopt a State Religion!", "An unmet Player has adopted a Religion!"
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Very interesting indeed!

It looks like they really were planning on including it, but probably couldn't make it budget- or time-wise (I don't believe the "it doesn't fit the diplomacy'-excuse).

Utterly interesting. Maybe they'll include it eventually in an expansion?
 
I called it months ago.

I'm betting it was a planned feature, but they decided not to implement and are saving it for the xpac.

I just want it back, I don't care how they manage to put it back in. Religious are cool in Civ, just for the immersion.
 
My guess is that they didn't find a way to implement it properly into Civ5, and shelfed it.
 
It looks like they really were planning on including it, but probably couldn't make it budget- or time-wise (I don't believe the "it doesn't fit the diplomacy'-excuse).
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Or they had it in their early builds, and decided it didn't really work with their new conception of diplomacy, so they extracted it.

They told us 6 months ago when the game was announced that religion was out. Hardly a lack of time.
 
Shafer already told us they were trying to make religion work and scrapped it.

If it does show up in the future, it doesn't have to be due to some grand scheme. Let's see, you're trying to implement some features to your game and end up scrapping some of them... when it comes time for an expansion ~ where's the first place you're going to look for ideas? Oh, the ones that didn't work on the first try.
 
Sounds like expansion material if you ask me. If religion is handled as more than just an arbitrary vehicle for positive diplomacy modifiers and improved cash flow (as it was in cIV), then I'm open to it. As ciV stands now, I don't miss it. :dunno:
 
King Jason said:
Shafer already told us they were trying to make religion work and scrapped it.

If it does show up in the future, it doesn't have to be due to some grand scheme. Let's see, you're trying to implement some features to your game and end up scrapping some of them... when it comes time for an expansion ~ where's the first place you're going to look for ideas? Oh, the ones that didn't work on the first try.
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Ding ding ding. A winner is you.

Reasonable assumption? NAH IT'S STEAM, STEAM IS OUT TO GET YOU, STEAM DID THIS TO OUR FAVORITE SERIES AND NOT THE DEVELOPERS! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
King Jason said:
If it does show up in the future, it doesn't have to be due to some grand scheme. Let's see, you're trying to implement some features to your game and end up scrapping some of them... when it comes time for an expansion ~ where's the first place you're going to look for ideas? Oh, the ones that didn't work on the first try.
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Exactly. It happens often in computer games that planned features don't make the cut, because of time or money restrictions.

And once the game is out it's easier to implement the cut features for an expansion pack because there's more time (and money) to invest in it.

Oh, and if it does return: Yes, it will probably cost us money.
 
Ahriman said:
Or they had it in their early builds, and decided it didn't really work with their new conception of diplomacy, so they extracted it.

They told us 6 months ago when the game was announced that religion was out. Hardly a lack of time.
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Riiiight. Because companies don't ever plan what they will work on ahead of time...:rolleyes: They could've planned to put it into the game, and looking at the calendar (not the tech :P), they realized they didn't have enought time. Must not have been much of a let down though, with expansions and what not, like it's been said.
 
Don't worry, it'll be in the next expansion pack!

Preorder now, and you'll get Judaism!
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It could have been scrapped at the last moment, but I find it more likely that it'll be in a DLC later due to budgets.
 
It looks more like leftover code from scrapped design elements than it does something waiting to be unlocked by DLC.
 
Religion in civ4 was a bit of a political hot potato, perhaps they don't want more of the same trouble with civ5?
They could invent imaginary religions, but then that is not the civilization way!

ZimbuTheMonkey and a few others remind me of crazed knights of the round table charging around defending the honor of Steam and whack anybody that says the slightest negative thing! creepy!!
 
mystikmind2005 said:
Religion in civ4 was a bit of a political hot potato, perhaps they don't want more of the same trouble with civ5?
They could invent imaginary religions, but then that is not the civilization way!

ZimbuTheMonkey and a few others remind me of crazed knights of the round table charging around defending the honor of Steam and whack anybody that says the slightest negative thing! creepy!!
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It's because those "slight negative things" are complete constructs and paranoid delusions.

The guy just said that Civilization V's lack of religion and future DLCs are because of Steam's (a program made by Valve) master plan. Valve offers a service, which is free integration called Steamworks. Developers can choose to take advantage of it.

Do you really think "Steam" (Valve) had anything to do with 2K's decision to adopt Steamworks?

Make sense, and I'll have no reason to "defend Steam's honor". If you don't like being forced to use a third party app when playing your game, that's cool I understand that. If you don't like digital distribution, I don't agree, but I understand that. If you don't like DRM and thus refuse to use Steam, I understand that.

When you say that Valve is actively ruining your favorite franchises and stealing your private data, that's when you start to lose me.
 
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