100+ Killed in India Bombings

[sonorakitch]

Remember, OBL and Al-Qaeda denied responsiblity for 9-11 for several days, unlike their previous strikes (Cole, Embassy) in which they announced responsiblity almost immediatley.

Maybe the fundamentalist terrorists want to regroup before claiming responsibility?

~Chris

 

[sonorakitch]

Let me use this opportunity to tell that families of the victims that Islam is a religion of peace , that it could never be responsible for something like this . No Muslim could have ever done something like this . I bet it's the . . . . . Jews . Or maybe the Hindus did it to themselves to make the Muslims look bad ?

Hahaha...the jews huh?

Some Islamic groups do practice peace, others certainly do not. 24 conflict in the world today, 18 stem from Muslims. UN cold, hard fact.

~Chris

 

[LLXerxes]

Attack on US - 9-11
Attack on Spain - 3-11
Attack on India - 7-11

Just an observation.

The reason the Spain bombings were 3/11 was becasue it was 911 days after 9/11/01. How long has it been since hte Madrid bombings?

 

[aussieboy]

But I am sure this is consipiracy by the Hindu government of India to persecute the poor Muslims of India . SIMI were nice people . Honest .

No , it probably was a bunch of Muslim fundies, but not all religious Muslims are terrorists. Most just live a normal life, eating, drinking, getting married, going to school...

My condolences to all the victims of this barbaric attack, once again.

 

[aneeshm]

Hahaha...the jews huh?

Some Islamic groups do practice peace, others certainly do not. 24 conflict in the world today, 18 stem from Muslims. UN cold, hard fact.

~Chris

Actually , I was being sarcastic . It is standard practice in the Muslim world to blame the Jews , Christians , or Hindus ( or an alliance of two or three ) for everything that is wrong with the Muslim world .

 

[Turner]

The reason the Spain bombings were 3/11 was becasue it was 911 days after 9/11/01. How long has it been since hte Madrid bombings?

Actually, it was 912. Someone forgot to count the leap year.

I suppose it could be argued that there was 911 days between the attacks.

 

[Princeps]

Hahaha...the jews huh?

Some Islamic groups do practice peace, others certainly do not. 24 conflict in the world today, 18 stem from Muslims. UN cold, hard fact.

~Chris

Wrong. 24 conflicts today, most are the result of western actions.

 

[Little Raven]

India says Pakistan did it.

India's prime minister said Friday that the Bombay train bombers were "supported by elements across the border" — a clear reference to Pakistan — which he said must rein in terrorists before a peace process can move ahead. Pakistan rejected the allegations and called for the peace process to continue.

The comments by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh came as Indian authorities named a third suspect in Tuesday's deadly attack and as investigators cast a wide net in their hunt for the assailants, scrutinizing a cross-border Islamic militant network along with smaller homegrown groups.

...

"We are also certain that these terror modules are instigated, inspired and supported by elements across the border, without which they cannot act with such devastating effect," he said. "They clearly want to destroy our growing economic strength, to destroy our unity and provoke communal incidents."

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Since the blasts, officials have been pointing to the Pakistan-based Islamic militant group Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, which operates in Kashmir. Many cited the presumed use of RDX high explosives as evidence of Lashkar's involvement.

However, due to Israel's cutting in line, I'm afraid we're going to have to ask India to wait until the current crisis is resolved before starting any new ones. We're already on crisis overload. Thank you for your patience.

 

[sonorakitch]

Actually , I was being sarcastic . It is standard practice in the Muslim world to blame the Jews , Christians , or Hindus ( or an alliance of two or three ) for everything that is wrong with the Muslim world .

Ooops...sorry. Sometimes you just never know!

~Chris

 

[sonorakitch]

Wrong. 24 conflicts today, most are the result of western actions.

Uuhhhh...dude you read the news? Western actions might account for 3 or 4 of the conflicts in the world today. Get off Civ and read some news man.

~Chris

Significant Ongoing Armed Conflicts, 2005
Main warring parties Year began1
Middle East
U.S. and UK vs. Iraq 2003
Israel vs. Palestinian Authority/Hamas/Hezbollah/Palestinian separatists 1948
Asia
Afghanistan: U.S., UK, and Coalition Forces vs. al-Qaeda and Taliban 2001
India vs. Kashmiri separatist groups/Pakistan 1948
India vs. Assam insurgents (various) 1979
Indonesia vs. Christians and Muslims in Molucca Islands 1977
Indonesia vs. Papua (Irian Jaya) separatists 1969
Nepal vs. Maoist rebels 1995
Philippines vs. Mindanaoan separatists
(MILF/ASG) 1971
Africa
Algeria vs. Armed Islamic Group (GIA) 1991
Côte d'Ivoire vs. rebels 2002
Democratic Republic of Congo and allies vs. Rwanda, Uganda, and indigenous rebels 1997
Somalia vs. rival clans 1991
Sudan vs. Darfur rebel groups 2003
Uganda vs. Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) 1986
Europe
Russia vs. Chechen separatists 1994
Latin America
Colombia vs. National Liberation Army (ELN) 1978
Colombia vs. Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) 1978
Colombia vs. Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia (AUC) 1990

 

[silver 2039]

India vs. Assam insurgents (various) 1979

Assam Liberation Front is now defunct, and for all purposes finished.

Nepal vs. Maoist rebels 1995

Over

 

[Princeps]

Uuhhhh...dude you read the news? Western actions might account for 3 or 4 of the conflicts in the world today. Get off Civ and read some news man.

Western actions trigger almost every conflict in the world. West also provides weapons, sometimes to both sides, so they could fight a proper war. US, France, UK, (Russia) and (China) are the biggest arms traders in the world. They provide the chemical instruments to kill men, women and children with respectable efficiency.

It was western colonialism that rendered Africa, India and middle east into hell holes, or something close to being hell holes.

Most the conflicts may not be direct, but most likely indirect result of western actions.

Of course I am not saying that world would be a better place without the west, but blaming it all on the muslims is too easy.

Edit: and, I haven't played Civ in many months...

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Western actions, or the terrorists themselves, may be the ones starting it. This is just throwing around blame, I think. probably every one of these conflicts could have been avoided if one side or the other had been more sensible.

 

[betazed]

Well finally a militant group claims responsibility. I understand there were many on this board who hesitated to point the finger at muslim miltant groups. But seriously, who else could have done this thing?

 

[aneeshm]

For those too lazy to click the link ( I'm quoting the relevant part ) :

NEW DELHI/MUMBAI: Lashkar-e-Qahhar, which says it has links with the terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), on Saturday claimed responsibility for the 11/7 serial blasts that ripped through Mumbai’s commuter trains killing over 200 people.

In an e-mail to a TV channel, Lashkar-e-Qahhar stated that it had organised the blasts with its module of 16 people and not 14 as was being reported. It also claimed that all 16 people involved in the blasts were safe. The blasts, according to the e-mail, were in retaliation to the ground situation in Gujarat and Kashmir and was part of a series of blasts that it had planned on targets that include Mumbai’s international airport, Gateway of India, Taj Mahal and Red Fort, among others.

According to reports, intelligence agencies are trying to track the mail and the server from which it has been sent. Most officials claim that Lashkar-e-Qahhar could be a front for LeT and that investigations are on.

As far as I can make out , this is just another front organisation for the Lashkar-e-Toiba .

Funnily enough , both the Red Fort and the Taj Mahal are Muslim monuments ( that is , they were built by the Muslim rulers of India ( the Mughals , to be even more precise ( Shah Jahan , to be the most precise ))) . Why would a terrorist want to blow them up ? They are marks of Muslim pride . Have the terrorists no sense of history ? It would be as ridiculous as Roman Catholic Christian terrorists targeting the Vatican when their real target is Italy .

 

[aneeshm]

Well finally a militant group claims responsibility. I understand there were many on this board who hesitated to point the finger at muslim miltant groups. But seriously, who else could have done this thing?

Don't say such things , or you may be labeled a bigot .

 

[aussieboy]

Don't say such things , or you may be labeled a bigot .

We're not stupid.

 

[aneeshm]

We're not stupid.

I was labeled a bigot against Muslims for pointing out the obvious , without making a single anti-Muslim comment . I was just cracking a joke , to be honest .

 

[MobBoss]

Western actions trigger almost every conflict in the world. West also provides weapons, sometimes to both sides, so they could fight a proper war. US, France, UK, (Russia) and (China) are the biggest arms traders in the world. They provide the chemical instruments to kill men, women and children with respectable efficiency.

You are wrong that the US, France, UK sells any type of chemical weapon to anyone. Proof please?

It was western colonialism that rendered Africa, India and middle east into hell holes, or something close to being hell holes.

They were hell holes before they were colonized as well. Your point?

 

[silver 2039]

They were hell holes before they were colonized as well. Your point?

You really might want to look at a history book before you ever make that claim again. You are calling Africa, India, and the Middle East hellholes? Sorry to upset your view of the world, but these areas were the beacons of arts, science, education, culture, when the Europeans were living in dirty huts and suffering the Dark Ages. The great civllizations of these areas persisted until the Europeans came and wiped them out.