27 club

[Kyriakos]

I was reading some wiki article about Cobain, and it provided a link to the "27 club", which for those here who do not know is a group of known musicians who died when they were 27 (Cobain being one of them).

Now i did not really mean anything by looking at the link (here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club ) but i thought of looking how many of them killed themselves, and also how many were nearly 26 or 28 when they died.
It turns out most of them were nearly 28 (a few days short) or a bit over 27 (a few days after their birthday), and that the majority did not commit suicide.
Furthermore, another interesting note (which may again have no significance; just a pattern of chance) is that those who were almost in a different age died in accidents, including even a plane crash.

I cannot really think of any other reason to consider 27 as a truly significant number, other than being the outcome of 3 times 9, which is 3 times 3 times 3. This is a very elegant number, since you can multiply it from each part first, and get the same total in the second and third multiplication (well the second is the important here, the third would be the same anyway), and have the number of multiplied numbers be the same as the name of each of them (3).

So, can you think of any other reason why 27 is a significant number?

 

[Silurian]

Musicians have reached a stage when they can afford to spend too much on drink and drugs etc due to their career progressing but they have not reached a stage where they have calmed down a bit.

 

[Kyriakos]

Musicians have reached a stage when they can afford to spend too much on drink and drugs etc due to their career progressing but they have not reached a stage where they have calmed down a bit.

Sounds reasonable, but then there should have been a 28 and a 26 club too, at least.

 

[Perfection]

Sounds reasonable, but then there should have been a 28 and a 26 club too, at least.

Who says there isn't one (or at least that their couldn't be one)?

 

[Silurian]

Well look at this link for 321 people - die young stay pretty - not sure if 27 is peak.

http://www.av1611.org/rockdead.html

 

[Kyriakos]

Well look at this link for 321 people - die young stay pretty - not sure if 27 is peak.

http://www.av1611.org/rockdead.html

Most of those deaths were not suicides either, so i do not see your point. Obviously some people can have suicidal ideation for the reason you mentioned, but i doubt most actually get to kill themselves.

Anyway, i never claimed that there is some meaning in the 27 club, just thought it might be a topic of OT's high standards

 

[bombshoo]

27 just seems to be roughly in the middle of that age group with lots of young deaths from the "Rock 'n Roll/Hollywood Lifestyle". About ages 21-33.

On one end of the spectrum (dying in their early 20s) you have Sid Vicious, River Phoenix and Buddy Holly and on the other end (dying in their early 30s) you have Keith Moon, "Left Eye", Jesus Christ.

Edit: I realize some of those were plane wrecks, but they still count as part of the lifestyle since they tend to fly more in general, and often in small planes and in unsafe conditions.

 

[Silurian]

I was not trying to imply that they were all committing suicide.
I was just posting a list.

Being a top rate musician can be a hard job with lots of pressure which could lead to suicide plus maybe they are more prone to suicide but I have no evidence for that.
They are likely to have access to drugs which is risky.
They get a lot of money quickly which they have not got used to having and may allow them to carry out risky things.

When they get to their 30s they get used to the job, control or stop doing drugs (if they so) and generally become less wild.

 

[Rashiminos]

The same idea has a habit of getting around. There is a meme of 27, and people act on it.

 

[bathsheba666]

The Trinity is 3.

27 is three cubed, the trinity exponentiated.

And the exponent looks like Satan's horns.

Coincidence, I think not.

 

[_random_]

Weird Al uses the number 27 all the time in his songs. That's pretty significant.

 

[Cynovolans]

I always thought the 27 club just referred to Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, and Jim Morrison because they were all influential in the late 60s and then just died in a period of exactly two years. When Amy Winehouse died I heard she was included, and Kurt Cobain was also apparently a member of the 27 club. I thought it was weird they were adding members since I thought the 27 club got so much attention because the generation that grew up in the 60s was hit hard by the sudden deaths of so many of their idols as the 70s began.

I don't think there is anything special about the age, I can think of a good number of musicians who died in their twenties, long before they should have.

 

[Harald]

Weird, I have never before heard of the 27 club until today and that was about 2h ago when I watched a Swedish quiz show where one of the answers where just the 27 club. And now I, for some reason, log onto here which I haven't done in ages and there is a recent thread about it.

EDIT: Spelling

 

[bombshoo]

Weird, I have never before heard of the 27 club until today and that was about 2h ago when I watched a Swedish quiz show where one of the answers where just the 27 club. And now I, for some reason, log onto here which I haven't done in ages and there is a resent thread about it.

Just more proof of the supernatural power of the number 27!

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

I'm 27 right now.

God damn it.

On topic, the only reason I can think of 27 as a significant number is astrology plus numerology. Add up all the numbers in a line of number, where the number is, ie, 2532, and you do 2 + 5 + 3 + 2, and you get the number 12. Add them up again, ( 1 + 2 ), until one digit is left, which in this case is 3. Therefore, 2 + 7 is 9, and in astrology, the number 9 is ruled by Mars, which represents danger, risk, blood, etc.

That's my interpretation of it.

 

[TheLastOne36]

I've heard about it before in some Illuminati video someone posted long ago. Don't believe in that but it's worth mentioning anyway.

 

[Disgustipated]

At this point, I think people are intentionally trying to be a part of the 27 club. I think this is the case with Winehouse. I think she intentionally wanted to die at 27. So there may be a tendency for on the edge musicians to really live dangerously at the age of 27 in an attempt to "martyr" themselves.

 

[azzaman333]

There is nothing special about the number 27 that makes musicians want to kill themselves at that age.

 

[amadeus]

Good, I'm glad nobody here has yet inferred some kind of causation.

 

[sophie]

Next you're going to tell me 4/20 was Hitler's birthday or something...