3 grams - Prodigal Son's

[Admiral Kutzov]

Sorry for the delay. Got it. Thanks for waiting.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

Looking for ATF agents: 11BG!!! No changes.
IT: Warrior scouts are going to do Lewis and Clark and follow the rivers.
2950: Nada
IT: settler to settler in Salamanca
2900: drop lux to 30
2850: Lewis pops GH. Angry Olmecs in triplicate.
IT: Olmecs sacrifice Lewis
2800: drop science to 40. Up lux to 30.
2750: drop sci to 10
IT: settler to settler in Salamanca
2710: Viagra Falls founded (pun intended). Set to warrior. Clark finds barb camp. Settler NW. lux to 20. Science to 80
2670: Clark kills one barb at camp. One left. Lux to 30
2630: Clark fortifies
2590: No River founded.
IT: Settler to settler at Salamanca.
2550: Clark eliminates barb camp. Lux to 10. Science to 90. Took 25g from the barb camp. Couldn't get rid of it yet. Suggest we send the young men west to the wandering barb area.

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[Admiral Kutzov]

Post mortem self doubt: build pattern too tight? Felt Salamanca was going to pump settlers for the next 100 turns or so, thus the layout. Decided to gamble and run settlers unescorted. What is the barb setting anyway?

 

[grahamiam]

Post mortem self doubt: build pattern too tight? Felt Salamanca was going to pump settlers for the next 100 turns or so, thus the layout. Decided to gamble and run settlers unescorted. What is the barb setting anyway?

little tight, but not too bad. 3tiles is a little close (if i see it correctly) and i would have gone 1T N for No River but i think we'll be ok. barb setting is restless so we should be careful.
we should get a couple of warriors out of sala before the next settler (maybe 2 + 1 worker = 30 shields or 1 settler), 2 for MP and the worker to improve the roads out. her pop should be at least 4 to do a 4-6 settler pump with this setup, but i'd rather have it at size 5 as we could do a warrior and settler every 4T.
size 5
CC = 3f, 1spt
4x bg's = 8f, 8spt
1x irrigated cow = 4f, 1spt
total @ size 5 = 15fpt (+5f) and 10spt
please check my math
@ size 6, it's even more productive so it should work a river tile to get more gold. however, it doesn't have to be mined, so just road it (for the gold) and then get working on the other towns.

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[denyd]

So for my 10 the plan is
1. Keep researching Writing
2. Salamanca builds switch to worker unless shields wasted (complete settler if wasting lots)
3. Other cities complete warrior builds then a worker from each before starting barracks (vet MWs)
4. Stay at peace with all others
5. Keep scouting and looking for neighbors

Any thoughts on where that settler should be heading?

 

[M60A3TTS]

little tight, but not too bad. 3tiles is a little close (if i see it correctly) and i would have gone 1T N for No River but i think we'll be ok. grahamiam

I thought the same thing when I saw the location, but no harm done if we keep no river citizens from working Salamanca's BGs. Or it could just be a cheap warrior/worker producer, and we could always relocate once the area is filled out. I would actually plant the settler 5 SW of Salamanca, followed by another one adjacent to the river by where those 3 barbs were. With the wheat tile that would give us another good settler/worker factory.

 

[grahamiam]

can anyone do some dots? 5t sw is good. is that a lux to the ne?

 

[Bede]

I'll work on a map tonight, though don't expect much. I ain't the best at this....but I need the practice.

 

[grahamiam]

barely passible dot map for review. once we have more land info, we can adjust, especially the northern ones.

 

[Bede]

G-man beat me to it...but since we are heading in the same direction I'll defer to his map, it uses better colors anyway.

 

[M60A3TTS]

Once No River gets the warrior out, it can finish exploring the northern area. The more I look at it, the more I think No River needs to be resettled 1N. Salamanca is a 600-lb gorilla in the making, so it will need room to make use of it's full 21 tiles down the road.

 

[Bede]

Or the citizens of No River could become the multitude who loafs and fishes....

 

[denyd]

Didn't get to this last night (darn that RL). How about popping a worker out of No River and then disbanding to be replaced 1 north. Any preferences on where to plant the current settler?

 

[grahamiam]

How about popping a worker out of No River and then disbanding to be replaced 1 north. Any preferences on where to plant the current settler?

that would work for me, though based on the screenshot, i think you'll do warrior -> worker -> abandon.

prefered city spots? probably SW, but the current settler is already heading N, so just keep heading that way for now. getting the warrior/settler factory up and running @ size 5 is key right now

good luck

 

[denyd]

I need to delay this one more day, SGOTM4 took longer than expected.

 

[M60A3TTS]

Not exactly off to a blazing start here...

 

[denyd]

Turn Log 1

Turn 0 – 2550 BC – Reset to my personal preferences – not much else to do though I do MM Viagra Falls to grow faster

IBT: Barbarian Warrior (BW) kills our warrior – Viagra Falls Warrior->Warrior

Turn 1 – 2510 BC – Up luxury rate to 20% (still writing in 12) to prevent Salamanca riot – Thor (warrior) heads NE to eliminate barbs and scout – Settler sent NE to location 1 NE of chosen spot (will get 2 BG in initial settle and gain the game on first expansion) – Since we’ve met no one not trades available

IBT: Nothing

Turn 2 – 2470 BC – Thor NE with Settler following

IBT: Salamanca grows to size 4

Turn 3 - 2430 BC – Increase luxury rate to 30% - Thor N finds BW – Settler following

IBT: No River Warrior->Worker

Turn 4 – 2390 BC – Conan (Warrior) sent scouting to the west – Thor (3/3) kills BW

IBT: - Salamanca Settler->Settler – Viagra Falls Warrior->Curragh

Turn 5 – 2350 BC – Reduce Luxury rate to 20% , science to 80% getting writing in 8 – Odin (warrior) heading S – Ann (worker) starts road - Settler & Conan heading west - Thor N to scout local region – Settler heading NE

IBT: Nothing

Turn 6 – 2310 BC – Thor N – Conan & Settler hook up – Odin SW

IBT: Nothing

Turn 7 – 2270 BC – Odin S spots a chunk o’tundra – Settler approaching home – Thor N – Conan & Settler SW

IBT: Salananca grows to size 4

Turn 8 – 2230 BC – Luxury rate to 30% - Conan & Settler SW – Ann moves to connect Viagra Falls – Odin SW spots a Barbarian Galley which means someone has Map Making - Settler reaches spot – Thor NW spots Goody Hut (GH)

IBT: No River builds worker starts wealth

Turn 9 – 2190 BC – Bee (worker) moves to help Ann – Ann starts a road - Conan SW spots a Barbarian Village (BV) – Conan and that settler are heading for the wheat – Settler founds Allegheny starts a worker – Thor approaches the GH

IBT: Salamanca Settler->Settler - Viagara Falls curragh->curragh

Turn 10 – 2150 BC – Luxury rate back to 20% - Drake (curragh) heading NE along the coast – Conan and Settler NW spot a French city (Rheims) and a BV in the mountains N – Settler head west to closest blue dot - Odin approaches BV – Thor reaches GH

Turnover notes: I would keep going with Conan & Settler to the tile S of wheat, it’s on the river and has a BG & wheat to start with – The new settler is meant for the nearest western dot – it might be time to replace No River (I hate disbanding cities so left this task to the next player) – You also have the choice on whether or not to pop that GH in the north – we’ll have writing in 3 and then we better head for literature as the GL might be our only hope to catch up quickly on tech

 

[grahamiam]

Not exactly off to a blazing start here...

review the time req'd. i am not a ballbuster on the time, as long as it keeps moving and people are kept informed. i will not hesitate to skip if we don't hear anything from the player up, but denyd posted a got it within 24hrs and the save within 72hrs, so no harm done.
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[RowAndLive]

Got it. Will play tonight.

 

[RowAndLive]

2150 – 0
Turn off sound. Turn on grid. Refer to dot map again.
Change No River wealth > worker in 5, grow in 9.
Note that Salamanca & Viagra Falls will both grow in 1, with 1h/1u already, so MM lux @ 20% to prevent riots.

IBT: BW takes Odin on mtn to red. Growth with no riots. Gold 20 > 20.

2110 – 1
MM spending to 50% tech, 30% lux to keep writing in 2, and unhappy <= happy.
Odin forts to heal, settler SW to gems, Conan & settler W, Bee SE, Drake 2 NE, Thor west & pops BWs.

IBT: Thor -0 kills BW. 1 BW runs N.

2070 – 2
settler SW, Drake NE (& sees shallows 2W)-N, Thor NE -1 kills BW, Conan & settler to dot, Bee E to join Ann. Check cities again – Salamanca growing, but should be OK.

IBT: Writing > Philosophy in 21. VFalls curragh > warrior in 2.

2030 – 3
Bee roads, Hudson (curragh) 2SE, Thor N, settler SW to dot, Odin SW -2 kills BW, Cattaraugus founded near wheat & French colony > rax as temple prebuild, Conan NE to mtn but still no French contact (no diplo screen), Drake 2W

IBT: Thor killed by last BW. Drake survives & sees BH on new lands.

1990 – 4
Odin forts, Ann & Bee W, Hudson 2S, Drake 2NE & sees red border on N fringe, Oil Springs founded > worker in 9 & grow in 6, Conan NW

IBT: Salamanca settler > settler in 8 & grow in 1, VFalls warrior > settler in 6 & grow in 6.

1950 – 5
Ann & Bee W, settler N, Hudson 2S.
Check variant again, as diplo button now shows – no peeking.
Drake 2N & sees Aztecs in the canal city of Tlatelolco. Many more canal city ops here.
Tyr SW-W, Conan W. Why am I not getting the option to build the worker & depopulate No River?

IBT: Joan offers CB for Writing ( ) – No. They also have BW, Masonry, Wheel, 60g, 4 cities.
Aztecs don’t contact us, but do send a settler SE.

1910 – 6
Ann & Bee road, Tyr N, Hudson S-W, Conan E, Drake NW-N into Aztec terr, settler N, Odin NE

IBT: Aztecs offer BC for Writing ( :explode: ) – No. They also have BW, masonry, wheel, WC, 0g, 6 cities.
BG attacks Hudson -0 & dies.

1870 – 7
Hudson SW-W, Tyr N, Drake NW-N & sees another red border to N, settler NW, Odin forts, Conan E. Raise spending to keep -1gpt, since we got up to 25 . Oops.

IBT: Aztecs sending many units including archers S. Inuits grow a BH near Cattaraugus.

1830 – 8
Conan SW to mtn, Ann & Bee NW, settler W, Tyr NW, Hudson 2W, Drake 2N & sees Tlaxcala with spear. Also notice that our shallows & their shallows are continuous.

IBT: BH decides to go after Rheims. Settler sees new French city pop to N.
No River worker > abandon, Alleghany worker > warrior in 10 & grow in 10.

1790 – 9
Cass SW from Alleghany, Deb roads on ruins of No River, Conan SW to Cattaraugus, Hudson S-W, Drake 2W & thinks our lands are separate, Tyr N sees end of land, Ann & Bee road, settle founds Tonawanda 1N of No River > curragh in 8

IBT: BH dies attacking Rheims, BH goes red killing Odin on mtn.
Salamanca settler > warrior in 3 (not that there’s a prayer of building before the BH shows up. Next plyr may want to switch to settler in 8)

1750 – 10
settler N-E-N (headed to dot near sugar), Tyr N, Cass mines, Drake N-W, Conan NE, Hudson SW-W.

Notes:
- There is a BH 2SE-2S of Salamanca on mtn 1N of BV
- VFalls settler due in 1 & grow in 1
- may want to change Salamanca build back to settler in 8 & let BH pillage as he desires
- Tonawanda wil be hooked by road in 2