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[GS] 30-Day Patch for GS?

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by greenblade, Mar 13, 2019.

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  1. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    One of the 2kqa branches was updated yesterday. So all bets are off. It still could come out this week, but there's nothing special pointing to this week now.

    Edit: except that yesterday's update was in the evening Firaxis time, which is not typical. But it's not terribly unusual either, so who knows if it means anything.:dunno:
     
    WillowBrook, Mar 19, 2019
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  2. Gedemon

    Gedemon Modder Super Moderator

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    There was also an update yesterday to the proving_grounds branch of the SDK. That's the 4th since the GS patch, for reference there are not many in the history for that branch.

    Yes, I was still following that branch from time to time, wondering when the few 2018 updates were about to go public :o

    The corresponding branch of Assets was updated the 1st march BTW.
     
    Gedemon, Mar 19, 2019
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  3. Aristos

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    DLL?
     
    Aristos, Mar 19, 2019
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  4. Casworon

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    One can dream. However i feel that such a large modding release would be announced a bit ahead of time. Seeing as i'm sure Firaxis know how much we are desperate for it
     
    Casworon, Mar 20, 2019
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  5. Eagle Pursuit

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    They've done "Proving Ground" qa updates in previous patches. So I doubt it is for the DLL. Probably more mundane modding tools.
     
    Eagle Pursuit, Mar 20, 2019
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  6. Kruos

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    I remember during a Firaxis stream pre-GS launch a dev spoke about 'big' change on modding were in preparation. The term "soon™" was used.
     
    Kruos, Mar 20, 2019
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  7. Krajzen

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    "Hey guys so we release .dll, as we ended development of civ6 and won't release any patch or add content to it ever again. Have a nice day, bye!"
     
    Krajzen, Mar 20, 2019
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  8. Elhoim

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    I think they were planning a big world builder update.
     
    Elhoim, Mar 20, 2019
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  9. Gedemon

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    That would be a first for the serie as they have released two expansions and multiple patches after the civ4 DLL source and one expansion and multiple patches after the civ5 DLL source...
     
    Gedemon, Mar 20, 2019
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  10. Fampat

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    Since i havent modded on any other civ, what would change with the release of the "dll"?
    Will we get more possibilities? What iam miss the most right now is the ability to alter data at runtime (via lua), i have a lot of getters but only a handfull setters which are very limiting, would that change?

    What are the _main_ features/changes of having the dll available?
     
    Fampat, Mar 20, 2019
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  11. Abaxial

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    I hope!!
     
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  12. Vandlys

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    Wasn't the same term used, to indicate a proper worldbuilder, just after launch of the vanilla game? So, soon in Firaxis lingo has taken more than two years already...

    I really want that world builder dammit. The backdoor method just isn't sufficient.
     
    Vandlys, Mar 20, 2019
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  13. Weraptor

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    AFAIK, modders will get access to hard-coded data.
     
    Weraptor, Mar 20, 2019
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  14. Gedemon

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    First let me say again that we can already do a lot in Lua, sometime using some "creative hacking" with the help of fake buildings and modifiers...

    But if we gain access to the gameplay DLL source code, then we could do anything in relation to gameplay, so yes, you could add any "setters" you want for your values.

    No more "creative hacking" needed.

    Full access to the AI coding, no more guess work on variables and decision trees....

    And real debuging !

    The only parts that would stay out of reach would be the main exe and the other DLLs content running the graphic, sound, network, etc...

    But it opens the door for total overhaul of combat, diplomacy, units stacking, AI, etc..
     
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    Gedemon, Mar 20, 2019
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  15. Fampat

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    Thanks for the explanaition Gedemon!
    Makes sense to me now... we all want that :)
     
    Fampat, Mar 20, 2019
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  16. Haig

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    What is a Worldbuilder ?
     
    Haig, Mar 20, 2019
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  17. Aristos

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    And access to the spaghetti!!! :rolleyes:
     
    Aristos, Mar 20, 2019
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    What are the chances Firaxis will give us access to the DLL? I've heard people say since Civ VI has been released for the Switch and iOS that Firaxis will want to keep all versions of Civ VI the same so they might be hesitant to release it for PC.
     
    Leathaface, Mar 20, 2019
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  19. _ViKinG_

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    Why should they. Other pc games gets more stuff from modding so switch players know that pc is better anyway
     
    _ViKinG_, Mar 20, 2019
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  20. ghost88

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    Map editor/scenario creator. Allows you to place Terrain,cities/settlers, roads, units, ect. Does not allow rule/gameplay chances that's what the DLL would allow.
    I want the World Builder mainly to "fix" the map script( I despise inland lakes, too much Tundra/Snow/Deserts) and to put my opponents were I do not meet them till 1000ad, and certain City States (I'm looking at you Auckland) close to me.
     
    ghost88, Mar 21, 2019
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