3rd Cumulative WW2 History Quiz

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Graf Zeppelin the aircraft carrier of the Kriegsmarine, named in honor of Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin and the airship. She was launched on 8 December 1938, but was never completed, never commissioned, and never saw action.
 
Looks like there might be an ambiguity here...
 
The Graf Zeppelin was a German aircraft carrier that kept incomplete (already said) (also) due to Göring. The ship was scuttled in 1945 in the Baltic. However the ship was raised by the Soviets, but by taking the ship to Kronstadt, the carrier hit a mine. Seen as unworth to be repaired, then it must have been impossible since the Russian navy used everything to be able to swim at least, the ship was sunk by Russian destroyer torpedoes. However IIRC there is a rumor the ship was already sunk by a mine and the other story only made not to admit loosing a ship on an own mine.

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well yes I was talking about the aircraft carrier, not the airship. It was never comleted, and never saw action. She was sunk in the Baltic sea to keep her outta the hands of the Russians and they raised her. BUT my sources told me that she wasnt sunk by a mine, she was filled with war booty and capsized. But I may be wrong. Hornblower was first to get the carrier but Adler gave the second part about the carriers death/ resurrection/ death. I'll let you 2 fight out who goes next.
 
Sorry Hornblower but I just found coincidentally a perfect question:
This song was most probably the most popular song in ww2. It was broadcasted by nearly all radio stations on nearly all sides. The first title was "Song of a young sentry", however it became famous under another title. Which song it is? Bonus: Who sung it in the original version?

Adler
 
That sounds like "Lili Marleen" or "the Girl under the lamp light" (or however it translates) to me. Can't remember who was famous for singing it first.... Maybe Marlene Dietrich in German?
 
Singer was Lale Andersen, title Lili Marleen. It was relaunched as a single in the eighties with "drei rote rosen" on the B-side. Had to look it up among my records, can't say I have played it in a decade with CDs and such having taken over completely...
 
Asclepius is right it is Lilli Marleen. Lale Andersen (born under the name Eulalia Bunnenberg), 1905- 1972, sung the original composed by Hans Leip (1893- 1983) from Hamburg in 1915 before going to the Eastern Front. He had 2 girl friends, and as couldn´t decide, he took both also into his song. After the war the song was made public, but had difficulties to become a hit. Norbert Schulze (1911- 2002) wanted to make it public, but had difficulties: Goebbels wanted to make a march and Lale Andersen didn´t want to sing it. And when she frinally sung the song, only 700 copies were sold. Additionally the song was prohibited by the Nazis because of the "portentous character".
However Belgrade army radio station transmitted the song, because the director, Lt. Karl- Heinz Reintgen had a friend in the Afrika Korps, who lovged the song. Here a new fan was found: Rommel. The marshall asked to implement the song into the program what happened at 9.55 pm shortly before the end of broadcasting. So the final breakthrough happened. But not only on Axis sides but also on Allies. It is said that the British song publisher J.J. Phillips was angry about a group of British soldiers hearing a German song. One soldier should have replied why he didn´t write an own version (which was against copyright but it was war...) , which got also in the charts sung by Anne Shelton. Also Marlene Dietrch sung the (German) version, but this one is IMO not so good like Lale Andersen´s.
The song was number 13 in the charts of the USA in 1944 and there reappeared in 1968, 1981 again in the German charts and 1986 in the Japanese.
See also: http://ingeb.org/garb/lmarleen.html
A personal note: As little kid in the 80´s I loved the songs by Lale Andersen. My mother had (and still has) a copy of her best songs, and Lilli Marleen I like especially.
It is over to you, Asclepius.

Adler
 
Nice background info Adler, I didn't know about Lale Andersen.

Next question: What was the "Leibermeister" and why was it unique in 1945?

Both parts required and no Googling now! ;)
 
I once read that the Desert Rats would quite often tune in to the Afrika Korp's radio, and listen along to Lili Marlene.

Was a Liebermeister a conductor?
 
My grandfather mentioned something about driving along an Autobahn in Northern Germany in WW2 with the allies driving down one side and the German POWs marching down the other. At some point someone struck up Lili Marlene and both sides eventually joined in with their version :)
 
Well, gosh! What with all the excitement surrounding CIV this question seems to have been holed below the water-line and is sinking fast along with this thread.

If there is anybody out there, here's the answer:

The Leibermeister, also know as the Leiber(tarn)muster was the last camouflage uniform designed in the Third Reich. It was due to replace all Waffen SS and Wehrmacht camo uniforms and was specifically designed to be effective in both woodland and urban environments. It was issued in very small numbers right at the end of the war.

What made it unique was the addition of "Carbon Black" to the dark sections of the camo pattern, which made this the very first camouflage to be effective when viewed through (IR) night vision equipment.

It was so successful that the Swiss Army, oblivious to the political implications of using a Nazi camo, introduced it as standard issue in the 1950's.

I now pronounce this thread MIA.
 
Looks vaguely similar to modern Flecktarn, though I suppose itès a mixture of the pea-pattern and that.
 
nonconformist said:
Looks vaguely similar to modern Flecktarn, though I suppose itès a mixture of the pea-pattern and that.
Flecktarn is more of an improvement of the 1944 peas-pattern but there are elements of Leibermeister in it, yes.

(Good to see someone still out there! :) )
 
We're all still here, just without a clue :D

(Granted, I speak for myself, but the majority of people who post her are happy amateurs, and not experts, though Verbose does make me wonder sometimes)
:)
 
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