8 humans PBEM, C3C 1.12

[Arrogant]

Here's what I proposed:

Originally posted by Arrogant
World size: Standard
Barbarian activity: Roaming
Land mass: Random
Water coverage: Random
Climate: Random
Temperature: Random
Age: 4 Billion
Difficulty: Monarch

 

[Rubberjello]

I've asked Aggie via PM. Hopefully he will answer fairly soon. I was thinking we could just PM our Passwords rather than email, keeping this a "Civfanatics" thing only.

 

[predesad]

Everything looks good to me, i prefer raging barbarians, but would also prefer just to start rather than having a conversation about whether to change the setting

 

[ironduck]

You and your raging barbies

 

[predesad]

i find that at times the barbarians have better strategy / planning ability than the AI civs

 

[ironduck]

But you can't talk sense to them .. it would be really neat if they could evolve into a civ of sorts given enough time..

 

[LouisWu]

Everything looks fine.
Let´s start the game.

 

[Apricorn]

Are we going with 1.12 or 1.13 then?
If 1.13 is bug free I vote we go with that as it deals with the corruption issues.
If it does have bugs can someone point me to the thread where these are discussed?

 

[Arrogant]

If Aggie replies in time, I should be able to start it at about 20:00 GMT. I guess salts_pikey will give the OK this afternoon, so the only one we're waiting for is DogBoy.

Meanwhile, let me know whether you want any modification in these fields:

Name:
Country Name:
Noun:
Adj:
Title:

Otherwise I'll use everyone's nickname as Name, with the defaults in the other fields.

 

[Rubberjello]

Aggie says it's fine by him.

Just click on this link to PM him ( think this will work!)


*Copy of PM follows*

Aggie
PBEM-er



Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2487
Re: Could I (we) ask a favor of you?


That's OK! I think that I will around long enough for that

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Rubberjello wrote on Jan 08, 2004 04:14 AM:
Since you are such a long-time fixture in the PBEM circuit, We were wondering if you could be the "repository" of the passwords for this game in case someone quits. I was thinking everyone could PM their password to you after the first turn and then you could consolidate them in a saved message. Hopefully, that will be all that will be required, but if we get a drop or a replacement we may trouble you to PM the required password out to someone again?


8-way PBEM thread (Arrogant's game)

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[Arrogant]

Originally posted by Apricorn
Are we going with 1.12 or 1.13 then?
If 1.13 is bug free I vote we go with that as it deals with the corruption issues.
If it does have bugs can someone point me to the thread where these are discussed?

The only thing I could find is the following dialog between BretP and Padma, in the "Beta Patch 1.13 Released" thread:

Originally posted by BretP
Has anyone noticed a dramatic drop in the number of resources with the new pathces. I just finished a large pangea map with 60% water, and only saw 5 horses and 6 iron. The others were very limited too. I just started a second game and noticed the same thing.

Originally posted by Padma
This has been confirmed in private as an unintended side effect of the new terrain features. They are looking into it.

However, from the above dialogue I tend to conclude that this problem is also present in 1.12.

salts_pikey and Rubberjello expressed some concerns about 1.13. Personally I'd prefer 1.13 since corruption unpredictability in 1.12 gets on my nerves.

So, we actually seem to have a tie. If someone knows something positive, it would help us to decide. Otherwise, just let the other 4 players chime in and vote.

 

[Arrogant]

Originally posted by Rubberjello
Aggie says it's fine by him.

Great, so at about 20:00 I'll set it up, pm my password to Aggie, and e-mail the game along with everyone's e-mail address to salts_pikey. Let's all forward to the next player the e-mail addresses together with our first savegame.

I hope that by then (9 hours from now) we will have decided on the patch version.

 

[Rubberjello]

About the patch:
I've only heard a rumor. I hate to be a rumor-monger, especially since then I've been looking at the Conquests forum and there has been no mention of it. I assumed Carlos MM got his information from Apolyton site??? I would have thought something this big would have been confirmed by now by someone else?

I vote we go for 1.13 unless something turns up in the Conquests forums in the next few hours. I don't know this Carlos dude and he could have just had "Don't renegotiate deals" option on.

He wrote:

"oh, and a word of warning about 1.13: I have discovered a bad bug (done lux deals just disapear) - no idea what is affected, only PBEMs or SP games, too - maybe you wait a day or two before you decide!!!!!"

in this thread

 

[salts_pikey]

i vote for 1.12.

otherwise everything is good.

i am happy to start when you guys are

 

[DogBoy]

I didn't know you were waiting on me. I have answered all the questions that have been asked on this thread. In fact, since I'm off work, I have kept this thread open and checked it every hour or so. All the settings look fine to me. Just need to know if we are going with 1.2 or 1.3.

 

[Arrogant]

Originally posted by DogBoy
I didn't know you were waiting on me. I have answered all the questions that have been asked on this thread. In fact, since I'm off work, I have kept this thread open and checked it every hour or so. All the settings look fine to me.

Not waiting, just a final check to make sure nobody found a new girlfriend or something

Originally posted by DogBoy
Just need to know if we are going with 1.2 or 1.3

Why don't you vote, read the previous posts for (admittedly insufficient) details on the pros and cons of each version.

 

[ironduck]

How do these patches affect PBEMs? When running several games, they all need to be upgraded at the same time, right? It seems like an unpredictable mess if different PBEMs are running with different versions of the game..

I'm a little wary about 1.13 since it hasn't been released on the official site, but I'm completely in the dark how the transition between patches is done when running multiple PBEMs.

 

[Arrogant]

Since (AFAIK), you can transfer games even from vanilla Civ to Conquests (with the necessary intermediate of PTW), I would guess there is absolutely no problem with the transition.

One can always revert to the previous patch by uninstalling the latest version. Just make sure you have preserved your last save.

Meanwhile, PBEM games go on for a loooooong time. There are probably going to be several patches (beta or not) while we play this game. Are we going to stick with an old patch until the game finishes (which could be a year from now) ?

 

[Arrogant]

But to speed things up, I'll count your vote as one for the 1.12. Since Rubberjello has apparently reformed, we are now 3 for 1.13 vs 2 for 1.12.

 

[ironduck]

I was more thinking in terms of not being able to play 1.12 games when I have installed 1.13 without having to uninstall the patch, play the round, reinstall again, play a round in another pbem, etc etc.. that's the kind of craziness I referred to

Since I'm new at PBEMs I'm not voting one way or another since I don't know standard procedure for these things.. it would make sense if all PBEMs always updated to the latest patch, but I was wary since it seems to have been leaked rather than released.