Absolutely Amazing: Christine O'Donnell Wins

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Holding a potential senator answerable to her past public statements is hardly what I'd consider to be "tasteless mud throwing". The Republicans need to do a far better job weeding out the more stupid candidates for such high offices. And if not, they certainly can't complain about it when it is pointed out to the general amusement of everybody else.
 
The thing that I find hilarious is that clearly the generation of my parents (and people like O'Donnell) do not understand the internet. If you said anything embarrassing in public, chances are someone has a copy, and once they put on the internet (which inevitably, they will), everyone knows. Granted, at the time she probably figured no one would ever remember down the road, but the internet never forgets.
 
It wasn't the internet. She made the statements during the filming of Maher's TV show as a paid commentator. It is no different than Reagan consulting a fortune teller while he was the president. It is obviously fair game which calls their intelligence and suitability for public office into question.
 
It kind of was. Granted, yeah, this case is a little different because the 'person with a copy' was the guy whose show she was on... it certainly helped fan the flames of the story that Maher has a new show to broadcast to. But on some level, it really doesn't matter if it was Maher himself or some guy who happened to tape it years ago and put it up on Youtube. The end result is the same. Plenty of dumber things have gone from unknown to common awareness quickly.
 
Formaldehyde said:
It wasn't the internet. She made the statements during the filming of Maher's TV show as a paid commentator. It is no different than Reagan consulting a fortune teller while he was the president. It is obviously fair game which calls their intelligence and suitability for public office into question.
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I am assuming you meant Nancy and not Ronald, right? Just making sure we're on the same page, factually speaking. Nancy, being the one not voted on by people.
 
VRWCAgent said:
I am assuming you meant Nancy and not Ronald, right? Just making sure we're on the same page, factually speaking. Nancy, being the one not voted on by people.
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Factually speaking, you would be incorrect if you think Joan Quigley's advice wasn't heeded by Ronald Reagan on numerous occasions.

http://articles.cnn.com/1997-05-19/...ents-reagan-white-house-the?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

The secret First Lady Nancy Reagans reliance on a San Francisco astrologer to determine the timing of the Presidents every public move.This was more than a charming eccentricity shared with the 50 million or so other Americans who, casually or in dead earnest, look to the alignment ofthe stars for guidance. As White House chief of staff for two years, before he was forced to resign in February 1987, Regan was in a position to see how the First Ladys faith in the astrologers pronouncements wreaked havoc with her husbands schedule. At times, he writes, the most powerful man on earth was a virtual prisoner in the White House.
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Link to video.
 
Let's put it this way: If this was a Democratic candidate who was a practicing Wiccan, and Republicans were making a big deal out of it, how many of you would be loudly denouncing Republican religious bigotry?

O'Donnell is seriously weird, and I doubt I'd vote for her, based on my admittedly limited knowledge of her ideas. But if you'd tolerate behavior in a candidate if you agreed with her other views, then it's nothing but political hackery to make a big deal out of it solely because you disagree with her on unrelated political issues.

Either Wicca is a valid religion, or it's not -- if it's not, then we shouldn't let dead Wiccan veterans get Wiccan symbols on their tombstones (Sorry ACLU!) and it should be legal to discriminate based on it. If it is, then lay off O'Donnell for it; making fun of politicians for their largely harmless past religious beliefs smacks of a religious litmus test. (Or at the very least, political hackery)
 
The point is not if she is or is not a witch, the point is that she's running as an extremist Christian conservative while also being a witch.

Hypocrisy is the issue, not religion.
 
The Astrology bit pales in comparison to the fact that Reagan was a fundamentalist christian and didn't believe in evolution.
 
Elrohir said:
Let's put it this way: If this was a Democratic candidate who was a practicing Wiccan, and Republicans were making a big deal out of it, how many of you would be loudly denouncing Republican religious bigotry?
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We're making fun of it rather than making a big deal of it. Now if there was tape of Pelosi like this, you would see what making a big deal of it really is.
 
I really don't care if she is Wiccan or not. It is just entertaining making fun of all her kooky aspects.
(I personaly don't consider Wiccan a religion, but that is beside the point.)
 
Cutlass said:
The point is not if she is or is not a witch, the point is that she's running as an extremist Christian conservative while also being a witch.

Hypocrisy is the issue, not religion.
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Is a witch, or was? Be precise in your characterizations, please.
 
Elrohir said:
Is a witch, or was?
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I don't think anyone, ever, has been a witch. I fully support making fun of anyone who has taken wicca seriously.
 
VRWCAgent said:
I am assuming you meant Nancy and not Ronald, right? Just making sure we're on the same page, factually speaking. Nancy, being the one not voted on by people.
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Reagan also believed in some other occult stuff.

Hall's concise volume ("The Secret Destiny of America") described how America was the product of a "Great Plan" for religious liberty and self-governance, launched by a hidden order of ancient philosophers and secret societies. In one chapter, Hall described a rousing speech delivered by a mysterious "unknown speaker" before the signing of the Declaration of Independence. The "strange man," wrote Hall, invisibly entered and exited the locked doors of the Philadelphia statehouse on July 4th, 1776, delivering an oration that bolstered the wavering spirits of the delegates. "God has given America to be free!" commanded the mysterious speaker, urging the men to overcome their fears of the noose, axe, or gibbet, and to seal destiny by signing the great document. Newly emboldened, the delegates rushed forward to add their names. They looked to thank the stranger only to discover that he had vanished from the locked room. Was this, Hall wondered, "one of the agents of the secret Order, guarding and directing the destiny of America?"
At a 1957 commencement address at his alma mater Eureka College, Reagan, then a corporate spokesman for GE, sought to inspire students with this leaf from occult history. "This is a land of destiny," Reagan said, "and our forefathers found their way here by some Divine system of selective service gathered here to fulfill a mission to advance man a further step in his climb from the swamps."

Reagan then retold (without naming a source) the tale of Hall's unknown speaker. "When they turned to thank the speaker for his timely words," Reagan concluded, "he couldn't be found and to this day no one knows who he was or how he entered or left the guarded room."

Reagan revived the story in 1981, when Parade magazine asked the president for a personal essay on what July 4th meant to him. Presidential aide Michael Deaver delivered the piece with a note saying, "This Fourth of July message is the president's own words and written initially in the president's hand," on a yellow pad at Camp David. Reagan retold the legend of the unknown speaker - this time using language very close to Hall's own: "When they turned to thank him for his timely oratory, he was not to be found, nor could any be found who knew who he was or how had come in or gone out through the locked and guarded door
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