Abstinence only works, how moronic

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Just how moronic can a young woman be when she is running around spouting that abstinence only works, then she comes out with , well it did not work so well when I and my real bright boyfriend got down and dirty.

No wonder the rate of pregnancy is so high among those whose parents rant that their daughter would never have sex outside of marriage because they have taken a pledge to wait until the wedding night.

A high school drop out's normal vernacular ? canard ? why do I have some doubts.
(Accusing me of hypocrisy is by now, an old canard. What Mr. Olbermann lacks in originality he makes up for with insincere incredulity)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/03/bristol-palin-strikes-back-olbermann_n_791478.html
 
Abstinence as a pregnancy-preventative measure absolutely works.

Abstinence-only as an educational concept fails horrendously.
 
Sex is hereditary. Celibacy is not. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either.
 
I thought that safesex ad was rather silly and funny.

In the end though, I suspect shes was selected as abstinence spokeswomen was for her looks and celebratey status. Besides it was tounge in check the part about not having sex before marriage, given that she a teenage mom and a high school drop out.
 
Cutlass said:
Harder to expect a teen to not do it when they are only told about abstinence.
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Maybe we should do it oppositely then:

GO DO SEX!!!! HAVE SEX!!! IT'LL MAKE YOU PREGNANT!!!!!
 
aimeeandbeatles said:
Maybe we should do it oppositely then:

GO DO SEX!!!! HAVE SEX!!! IT'LL MAKE YOU PREGNANT!!!!!
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Except that in a non-egalitarian society full of unequal opportunities and glass ceilings, some young women might be encouraged to become pregnant as a desperate way just to bring some meaning into their lives.
 
Cutlass said:
That actually would result in less teen pregnancies than teaching abstinence only.
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I seriously doubt that.

I do like how we are basically saying that if we have urges just satisfy those urges. Self control is something that people should learn that all temptations should not be listen to.
 
Skwink Caesar said:
Hard to get pregnant when you don't do it.
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Point: If you teach teens not to have sex, they won't get pregnant.
Counterpoint: Bristol Palin.

Judge: I think we have to call this in favor of the counterpoint. Teens will have sex with each other no matter what we tell them.

Case closed.

In all seriousness, emphasize abstinence only, but make sure to tell teens that if you are going to do it despite what we have told you, please do the following things to minimize the backfire.
 
cardgame said:
I'm not sure about that Cutlass.
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classical_hero said:
I seriously doubt that.

I do like how we are basically saying that if we have urges just satisfy those urges. Self control is something that people should learn that all temptations should not be listen to.
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What happens with 'Abstinence Only', or 'Just Say No' is that it leaves the recipient ignorant of the subject. They say "don't do", but they do not teach about the consequences. Many of those kids that end up preggers simply did not know that their actions could result in pregnancy. Because that knowledge was kept from them. They had sex in complete ignorance of the consequences.

So turn that around: This is what sex is. Do it and you get preggers.

Which do you honestly think will be more effectively discouraging?
 
Abstinence only does work - barring rape - provided you stick with it. The sad fact is some people don't have self control and get caught up in the heat of the moment. Saying no should be easy, but it isn't always.

We need to discipline the young to take precautions, or better yet, exercise self-control. Wait until you can afford the child especially. Run some pictures of STDs and the costs of supporting a child by them too.

Of course, there's also the reverse psychology youth rebellion concept that needs to be factored in.
 
It seems very odd to me for gays to be advocating abstinence if they engage in sexual activities themselves.
 
classical_hero said:
I seriously doubt that.

I do like how we are basically saying that if we have urges just satisfy those urges. Self control is something that people should learn that all temptations should not be listen to.
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This is America. We don't do self control.
 
Formaldehyde said:
To me, it seems extremely odd for gays to be advocating abstinence if they engage in sexual activities themselves.
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Not my fault God made it so we can't have children. :p

My responsibilities end at STDs.

With heterosexuals, it goes beyond that and extends to keeping kids out of the world. You must accept responsibility for your actions, and fate has decided heterosexuals have more responsibilities in sex.

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Abstinence is still a good ideology for gays too anyway. STDs don't discriminate on whether you're homosexual or heterosexual. Being gay doesn't give you a free ticket to have sexual adventures, since you still have consequences you can face.
 
People were quite a bit more promiscuous back in the 60s and 70s before the fear of AIDs changed everything. And it seems that teen pregnancy rates were not higher than they are now back then. Back then, nobody advocated abstinence except for a handful of extremely religious Christians.

I really don't see having sex as a lack of self control. I see it as being an act of love between two consenting parties. I can't imagine advocating abstinence except with those who are too immature to do so.

Taniciusfox said:
Not my fault God made it so we can't have children. :p

My responsibilities end at STDs..
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Then the answer in both cases is to simply wear a condom, or to use some form of birth control if you know for certain the other person doesn't have any sexual diseases. End of problem and lack of consistency.
 
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