1. We have added a Gift Upgrades feature that allows you to gift an account upgrade to another member, just in time for the holiday season. You can see the gift option when going to the Account Upgrades screen, or on any user profile screen.
    Dismiss Notice

Academic jargon in use in CFCOT

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Hygro, Dec 8, 2019.

  1. Hygro

    Hygro soundcloud.com/hygro/

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2002
    Messages:
    22,996
    Location:
    Montana
    We at CivFanatics off topic largely discuss issues of civilization, but in the world. As such we have a lot of academic terms at our disposal to discuss what we mean. Some of them I think have entered the common discourse and we should be okay using them without having to expect to reexplain them (though a good idea to highlight we mean something technical as we use them.

    I’ll start with two examples
    Supply and Demand
    (Weberian) Ideal Type
     
    yung.carl.jung and Gorbles like this.
  2. AdamCrock

    AdamCrock Polish Pudding

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    4,652
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Infected zone - Rzeszów
    Byte Molester !!
     
  3. hobbsyoyo

    hobbsyoyo Deity

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    24,704
    I try to avoid jargon here to the best of my ability. The one technical phrase I feel doesn't need explaining is delta-v as it is usually obvious from the context. It means change in velocity and is how you measure how far a spacecraft can travel.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2019
    GenMarshall and Hygro like this.
  4. Narz

    Narz keeping it real

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2002
    Messages:
    27,584
    Location:
    St. Petersburg, Florida
    What's that?
     
    Truthy and Hygro like this.
  5. aimeeandbeatles

    aimeeandbeatles watermelon

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2007
    Messages:
    18,923
    Gender:
    Female
    I like using them as an opportunity to Wikipedia them. Except sometimes nothing comes up. And sometimes I can't understand what does come up.
     
    Hygro likes this.
  6. Hygro

    Hygro soundcloud.com/hygro/

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2002
    Messages:
    22,996
    Location:
    Montana
    An ideal type is the imagined form in a pure version of the category of a thing being discussed.

    So like in the real world there’s no perfect representation of mental models of things, there’s only the idealized form of the model with which to measure real life things against.

    It’s used to compare real life things that are messy against a recognized common thread.

    It’s also kind of a meta-idea of how to model things in a social science context in general.
     
  7. AdamCrock

    AdamCrock Polish Pudding

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    4,652
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Infected zone - Rzeszów
    IIRC those are lightyears ? but there is another term : "parsec" !

    Care to explain what parsec is ?
     
  8. Narz

    Narz keeping it real

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2002
    Messages:
    27,584
    Location:
    St. Petersburg, Florida
    Thanks. Example?
     
  9. hobbsyoyo

    hobbsyoyo Deity

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    24,704
    @AdamCrock
    Off the top of my head, I believe a parsec is a measure of distance by way of angle across the sky - basically it's is how far an object stretches across the celestial sphere. It's another unit of distance, about 3.5 light years.

    The original Star Wars had an incorrect reference to parsecs - Han said he made the Kessel Run in less than X parsecs in a way that seemed to indicated he meant parsec as a unit of time instead of distance. In the later Solo movie, they successfully retconned this by showing that he navigated a shorter than normal distance across some sort of stellar trap which means parsec made perfect (if unconventional) sense in that context.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2019
    AdamCrock likes this.
  10. AdamCrock

    AdamCrock Polish Pudding

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    4,652
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Infected zone - Rzeszów
    Hey !!! ....

    Han made The Kessel Run well under 8 parsecs ! :lol:
     
    hobbsyoyo likes this.
  11. hobbsyoyo

    hobbsyoyo Deity

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    24,704
    I think throwing jargon out there is an easy way to shut down debate for people that can't otherwise defend their argument. When I'm reading threads on r/NASA or somewhere like that, it's usually a giveaway that someone doesn't know what they're talking about when they start using highly technical words in broad and imprecise ways.
     
  12. bernie14

    bernie14 Filter Manipulator

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    2,997
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    coastal flood plain
    Is there a difference between this and Plato's idealism?
     
    Hygro likes this.
  13. AdamCrock

    AdamCrock Polish Pudding

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    4,652
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Infected zone - Rzeszów
    ah well ... less than 12 parsecs ! .... :mischief:

     
  14. hobbsyoyo

    hobbsyoyo Deity

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    24,704
    Use of jargon is also not very welcoming. It's cool we have a regular cast of characters but I think expecting everyone that comes through the digital door to be on the same level isn't inclusive.
     
    Phrossack, Gorbles, The_J and 3 others like this.
  15. bernie14

    bernie14 Filter Manipulator

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    2,997
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    coastal flood plain
    In my field we use a lot of abbreviations,
    • bx biopsy
    • dx diagnosis
    • rx prescription
    • tx treatment
     
    AdamCrock likes this.
  16. caketastydelish

    caketastydelish Deity

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2008
    Messages:
    8,891
    Gender:
    Male
    Birdjaguar likes this.
  17. AdamCrock

    AdamCrock Polish Pudding

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    4,652
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Infected zone - Rzeszów
    Ha ! I knew that RX is prescription thanks to Freddy Pharkas ! The Frontier Pharmacist ! ^^

     
  18. Hygro

    Hygro soundcloud.com/hygro/

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2002
    Messages:
    22,996
    Location:
    Montana
    Not really and sometimes we will write platonic ideal type.
     
  19. aimeeandbeatles

    aimeeandbeatles watermelon

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2007
    Messages:
    18,923
    Gender:
    Female
    There's a Civfanatics wiki???
     
    caketastydelish likes this.
  20. r16

    r16 not deity

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,707
    episode VII made it clear that it was 14 and Han was exaggerating to 12 .
     
    AdamCrock and hobbsyoyo like this.

Share This Page