Adding my planet Mod to Final Frontier Plus

Aradziem · Mar 1, 2025

I don't know what do you name 'prism array'.

1.01 fix doesn't fix buildings. I've modified file that caused problems and attached it here : https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...d-to-final-frontier-plus.693776/post-16787734

planetmaker · Mar 2, 2025

Aradziem said:
I' ve made working solar system generation code in c++, but I haven't made most of code that allows using them, if you want it I can share current state.

That would be great, I'd love to see the progress.

Aradziem · Mar 2, 2025

Here are files from my c++ development folder with last edit date later than 2021.
You can turn game on (if all other files are present) and see the solar systems and bonuses, but nothing else about solar systems (except turning game off) works.
p.s. I can see you meant espionage array. Here is what is shown in older versions in pedia:

2 things about your mod: your technologies are in isolation era, while some should be in either exploration or galactic era.
There is also a grapical error(I mean this citizen picture when you enter town screen)

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planetmaker · Mar 3, 2025

Aradziem said:
There is also a grapical error(I mean this citizen picture when you enter town screen)

I had that problem once. I couldn't figure it out, so I reinstalled and carefully installed each patch at a time 1.83 -1.84 - 1.9 beta - ff+ and finally terraformer and it disappeared

Aradziem said:
I think someone should provide whole final frontier plus as one file because installing newest version is getting long and complicated.

I second this!
I must have made a mistake with my versions, so I will have go back and start again from the base installation, adding my buildings and finalfrontiergameutils entries slowly. I think I was using the wrong buildingschema so caused the confusion with the building infos. The version I have is stable, but crashes to desktop when I build the prism array or panoptican.

Aradziem said:
2 things about your mod: your technologies are in isolation era, while some should be in either exploration or galactic era.

My tech entries need reordering as well; the lines are overlapping.

Aradziem · Mar 4, 2025

I've just found this old thread:

Thread 'Merging BTS Modcomps'

Oct 6, 2010

So, here's a question: what modcomps for Beyond the Sword (or an earlier version of Civ; I just mean vanilla, not-FF+ modcomps) would you want to be included in Final Frontier Plus?

FF+ already includes components of Pep's Unit Orders Modcomp (actually, only one component- Sentry While Healed). If you think something else from that modcomp should be included you're welcome to mention it here too.

Here is the current list of suggestions (with a note if I've merged them already):

I think this could be better than my solution. I think bombing routes is much more useful (and makes more sense) than in vanilla game.

Thread '[MODCOMP] Air Combat Experience'

Sep 11, 2010

Air Combat Experience v0.2BtS
By: TheLopez

Last Updated 09/13/10

Version: v0.3BtS
Patch Compatibility: Beyond the Sword v3.19
MP Compatible: ?
Download Mod v0.3BtS

Description:
This mod enables experience gain for air units through missions. In addition
routes can now be bombed by air units if there are no improvements on the same
tile. When bombing cities the experience gain will lessen as the defenses of
the city are taken down. When attacking units more experience is gained when
the unit being attacked is killed. A new tag has been added to the route info
structure that...

I hadn't known about that when I had implemented my version.

I've made planet information screen work (it looks like there is something wrong in name):

planetmaker · Mar 12, 2025

Latest version attached hopefully with fewer bugs!
Fixed citizen in bottom corner (I was using incorrect CvMaininterface.py)
Buildings have better descriptions
Solar system generating code improved so fewer duplicate planets

Aradziem · Mar 16, 2025

This version adds a bug I've reported in appropriate thread.

planetmaker · Mar 17, 2025

hmm.not getting that bug specificaly. I deliberately removed all hab extensions because I think the planets in my mod have enough max pop, hope that's not what caused the error... I do get error in aibuildcallback, but the game continues. I have noticed the ai building the gray resource management complex on the wrong planets though.

Mr Smith · Mar 18, 2025

Aradziem said:
Am I (and my friend) the only persons playing this mod?

I am going to and offered to rework slavery into cloning/even better - material biosynthesis (maybe both with more than 1 granary replacement?). Would need a new tag or few from you guys, though - the only existing one (for Kremlin) can't be used to balance whipping alone, though, hmm, maybe it's reasonable if you can produce crews and materials cheaply, you also money rush cheaply. Already advertised the mod for acquaintances that played regular FFP. Guess I'll do this on discord servers, too. Was kinda waiting for it to reach some good milestone. Or maybe @Blake00 should announce it then, he has more coverage.

Once you guys are done with new features, AI could also use some love, it's nice to have K-mod through Kek-mod for FFP, but AI there still was lacklustre for me. Is current version based on Kek-mod?

Aradziem · Mar 18, 2025

Mr Smith said:
Once you guys are done with new features, AI could also use some love, it's nice to have K-mod through Kek-mod for FFP, but AI there still was lacklustre for me. Is current version based on Kek-mod?

I'm (rather slowly) working on making star systems in c++ so as to improve AI but I haven't touched any AI related code yet. Both versions (mine and planetmaker's) are based on Kek-mod, however the AI code (ff part) is still in python, so it's kind of dumb (at least sometimes).
Adding some more XML tags should be easy but I don't know how to do it.

Mr Smith · Mar 18, 2025

Aradziem said:
however the AI code (ff part) is still in python

Are you sure? What does it do there? Most of vanilla AI is in the DLL.

Aradziem said:
Adding some more XML tags should be easy but I don't know how to do it.

It's easy in schema, but in DLL you'd need to add variables, defines and adjust, say, cost calculations. I only ever merged ready components and made small tweaks.

Aradziem · Mar 18, 2025

Mr Smith said:
Are you sure? What does it do there? Most of vanilla AI is in the DLL.

The part that was in DLL is still there but the part that was added in final frontier is in python (check attached file) and as said here:

DarkLunaPhantom said:
The AI in FFP is severely affected by things that behave very differently than in BTS. It can't use BTS/K-Mod DLL code to plan for wars or manage citizens and buildings on planets and the replacement Python code is often very rudimentary. To fix that, one would need to do a lot of work to properly integrate new FFP game mechanics into the DLL. For now, I suggest to simply play on higher difficulty.

Mr Smith · Mar 19, 2025

Aradziem said:
It can't use BTS/K-Mod DLL code to plan for wars or manage citizens and buildings on planets and the replacement Python code is often very rudimentary

Dammit, Shafer.

@planetmaker do you already have AI for the new buildings?

planetmaker · Mar 19, 2025

I have not begun to look at the Ai buildings yet.
Incidentally I know now why there is an error in the Ai building, the extended habitation is defined, and I've deleted it from the building list...
I might put it back in and restrict its use to large terrestrial planets

Mr Smith · Mar 20, 2025

planetmaker said:
I have not begun to look at the Ai buildings yet.

Well, then it's to early to advertise, then. Multiplayer base is too small for all-human games and AI already sucked before all the additions.

planetmaker · Mar 23, 2025

So looking at Ai now
the code lists food production and commerce, i'll keep this structure but add a function at the start to get the planet class then add the appropriate buildings to each part. The code will be similar to what I've put in for restricting buildings to planet classes. Some buildings have more than one function and may be listed more than once.
I'm thinking about adding trait functions to the code - eg brotherhood builds the military complexes

I'm trying to create a function definition to quickly get the planet class, rather than duplicating the code each time I need it, but I'm having trouble adding my own def getPlanetClass(self): function in class CvPlanet: see below. The code doesn't like 'if self.bDisabled' any ideas where I'm going wrong?

Spoiler getPlanetClass(self) :

Mr Smith · Mar 23, 2025

planetmaker said:
any ideas where I'm going wrong?

You should ask in

Thread 'Quick Modding Questions Thread'

Jan 27, 2010

This may be a good place to post quick questions for "Newbie Modders" - Similar to one here for Newbie Players

To MODS: If this is a good idea can you make it a sticky.

Aradziem · Mar 23, 2025

planetmaker said:
I'm trying to create a function definition to quickly get the planet class, rather than duplicating the code each time I need it, but I'm having trouble adding my own def getPlanetClass(self): function in class CvPlanet: see below. The code doesn't like 'if self.bDisabled' any ideas where I'm going wrong?

Make sure that your function is in CvPlanet class i.e. check indentation. It should be like this:

Python:

class CvPlanet:
    #(some functions that are in CvPlanet class)
    def GetPlanetClass(self):
        #(your function body)
    #(some other functions)

Aradziem · Mar 23, 2025

By the way this mod uses kek-mod 0.22 while the newest version is 0.3.1
It looks like there were some changes.

planetmaker · Mar 24, 2025

AI work in progress; Habitation and Food Sections modified

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