MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
Do you support a ban on the sale of alcoholic drinks? or do you think it is a matter of personal freedom?
Alcohol, the cause of or solution to all of life's problems?
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duke o' york
It don't mean a thing....
It's a matter of personal choice. In countries where the adults are allowed to give their children alcohol, it is less likely that these children will develop trouble with the drug. However, there are always going to be people who need alcohol as a crutch, and without it they will just turn to something else. You'll end up banning all fun if you start to crack down on things that are dangerous when not taken in moderation. I'd also like to thank booze for inspiring so much excellent art over the centuries, although I doubt it has the same effect on scientists. 
By the way, your quote from the Simpsons is wrong. The toast is to alcohol as the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.
By the way, your quote from the Simpsons is wrong. The toast is to alcohol as the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.
scorch
Legalize Pot
Alchohol is the solution to the worlds problems, it should be manditory to drink atleast 24 standard drinks a day (thats about one bottle of spirit, or a box of beer), that way, we would be pissed 24/7 and be to drunk to do anything bad, also, we wouldn't care anyway, coz we are so pissed.
Think about it, the whole isreal problem, the dudes would be too drunk to drive the tanks.
Think about it, the whole isreal problem, the dudes would be too drunk to drive the tanks.
MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
I wasn't quoting the Simpsons. I was using a well known phase (albeit adapted to suit the situation) to grab people's attention. Now don't you feel the idiot.
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The key is a responsible attitude to alcohol. The Duke's point about countries where the adults can give the children alcohol is a good one - children learn responsible drinking, rather than the binge drinking that is typical of countries with stricter laws.
At least in France and Holland it is 
Nishdog
Isolationist Bastard
if people could just get that concept into their thick, alcohol-impared skulls there would be less of a controversy...i think if you go out to drink at the bar, it would be mandatory that you give your keys to the bartender (or security guard, etc...) and they don't give it back to you until you're sober.
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By the way, I'm an avid drinker, but I have managed to get that concept ingraned into my head, so I don't drink and drive...now it's just a matter of this beer gut
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By the way, I'm an avid drinker, but I have managed to get that concept ingraned into my head, so I don't drink and drive...now it's just a matter of this beer gut
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
Don't ban alcohol, keep the drinking age at 21. Even illegal, many people my age (16) still binge drink and drive afterwards.
When push comes to shove, I'd rather see them smoking cigarettes.
When push comes to shove, I'd rather see them smoking cigarettes.
Panda
Metal head
Prohibition laws existed in the past and had to be abolished because they failed to achieve their objects. They would fail today as well - at least in the countries I have lived in. 
In Finland, one can purchase and drink alcohol up to 18% once you're an adult, but hard drinks are off-limit until you're 21. Which is, IMHO, rather idiotic, since at 18 you can get a driver lisence, get married (even earlier with special permission) and go to the army. In other words, you're mature enough to be trusted with an assault rifle but not a bottle of Scotch...
Alcohol is nearly always discussed in the Finnish media, since
a) we have one of the highest per capita consumptions of alcohol in the world
b) the state has, despite our EU membership, a monopoly on most alcohol, keeping the prices sky-high
Those in favour of restrictions appeal for society's responsibilty and public health issues - according to them, if prices were to brought down to the level they are in most EU countries, half of Finland would drink itself to death in a matter of years
Yeah, right...
In Finland, one can purchase and drink alcohol up to 18% once you're an adult, but hard drinks are off-limit until you're 21. Which is, IMHO, rather idiotic, since at 18 you can get a driver lisence, get married (even earlier with special permission) and go to the army. In other words, you're mature enough to be trusted with an assault rifle but not a bottle of Scotch...
Alcohol is nearly always discussed in the Finnish media, since
a) we have one of the highest per capita consumptions of alcohol in the world
b) the state has, despite our EU membership, a monopoly on most alcohol, keeping the prices sky-high
Those in favour of restrictions appeal for society's responsibilty and public health issues - according to them, if prices were to brought down to the level they are in most EU countries, half of Finland would drink itself to death in a matter of years
Yeah, right... 
ApocalypseKurtz
Man, myth, legend
I would support lowering the drinking age to 18 or 16, as preiovusly mentioned.
As for alcohol, here are the pros and cons:
pros:
relaxes you, eases your mind
gives you a social activity to do with friends
ice breaker at a party
reduces inhibitions
cons:
some idiots still drink and drive
if you get completely wasted on a regular basis by yourself, you may be an alcoholic
possible hangover the next day
So alcohol is not a solution in any sense; it may cause problems if you can't handle the responsibility
Still, it is a personal decision whether or not to drink and if done responsibly you can have alot of FUN and GOOD TIMES
As for alcohol, here are the pros and cons:
pros:
relaxes you, eases your mind
gives you a social activity to do with friends
ice breaker at a party
reduces inhibitions
cons:
some idiots still drink and drive
if you get completely wasted on a regular basis by yourself, you may be an alcoholic
possible hangover the next day
So alcohol is not a solution in any sense; it may cause problems if you can't handle the responsibility
Still, it is a personal decision whether or not to drink and if done responsibly you can have alot of FUN and GOOD TIMES
Simon Darkshade
Mysterious City of Gold
It would be an interesting idea, but it would take a certain kind of society for prohibition to work properly in.
Put the age up, and restrict it more.
Put the age up, and restrict it more.
Hitro
Feistus Raclettus
It's a personal choice, a personal freedom. Children should be kept away until a certain age though. A teenager is not a child, and as rmsharpe said, they drink anyway. So that means the people (here: the teenagers) want it. 
Our drinking age is at 16 for up to 20% vol., 18 for unlimited and nobody cares anyway. In the good old tradition of 'you're old enough to drink when you're old enough to die for your country!'
Alcohol is not the cause of the world's problems as well as it's not the solution. It can solve some sexual problems from what I've heard, it can also cause some though...
Our drinking age is at 16 for up to 20% vol., 18 for unlimited and nobody cares anyway. In the good old tradition of 'you're old enough to drink when you're old enough to die for your country!'
Alcohol is not the cause of the world's problems as well as it's not the solution. It can solve some sexual problems from what I've heard, it can also cause some though...
Wolfe Tone
Which Way Did He Go?
Alcohol can be good as long as it is not the center of your life. I started to drink when I was 14. My parents knew but they weren't worried. I have always been able to control my drinking and I know when I have had too much. I don't need alcohol but a couple of pints of lager or a few glasses of red wine never did me any harm. I believe that spirits should be heaviliy restricted than beer and wine. They are which do the most dammage especially poteen which is brewed here but it was banned for a long time.
Also Alcohol has a medicinal value. I remember feeling really sick I took a shot of whiskey and I was completely better in the morning.
Also Alcohol has a medicinal value. I remember feeling really sick I took a shot of whiskey and I was completely better in the morning.
Sparrowhawk
The Builder
In my opinion, alcohol consumption is and should remain a personal choice, and therefore legal.
I feel the same way about presently illegal drugs, such as marijuana, cocaine, etc...
Besides, just because it's legal doesn't mean you can't tax the hell out of it.
I feel the same way about presently illegal drugs, such as marijuana, cocaine, etc...
Besides, just because it's legal doesn't mean you can't tax the hell out of it.
knowltok2
Deity
You can take my Guiness when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!!!!
They tried banning alcohol once and it caused more drinking!
The thought of banning alcohol makes me shudder, do not mention it again.
They tried banning alcohol once and it caused more drinking!
The thought of banning alcohol makes me shudder, do not mention it again.
Maj
Emperor
As a societal feature, alcohol does more harm than good.
If early on in human history, marijuana had replaced alcohol as the legal drug of choice in this world, I'm certain we'd live in a more peaceful society.
Alcohol amplifies emotions which is why it can be pleasurable for those who ingest it with cheery thoughts and friends nearby. But I've seen enough bar fights and mob crowds to know that the effect can work both ways.
I'd ban alcohol. I might as well ban violence, hatred and poverty while I'm at it.
- Maj
If early on in human history, marijuana had replaced alcohol as the legal drug of choice in this world, I'm certain we'd live in a more peaceful society.
Alcohol amplifies emotions which is why it can be pleasurable for those who ingest it with cheery thoughts and friends nearby. But I've seen enough bar fights and mob crowds to know that the effect can work both ways.
I'd ban alcohol. I might as well ban violence, hatred and poverty while I'm at it.
- Maj
ComradeDavo
Formerly God
If people want to drink, let 'em.
Do I drink? occasionally, not that often, and usually not that much.
Do I drink? occasionally, not that often, and usually not that much.
In my religion - Heathenry - the most basic holy ritual involves drinking alcohol.
So there is more at stake than the freedom to choose what to drink.
The freedom of choice of religion is at stake too,
So there is more at stake than the freedom to choose what to drink.
The freedom of choice of religion is at stake too,
Magnus
Diplocat
Lower the drinking age to 16
Raise the driving age to 21
Raise the driving age to 21
