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[Rossiya]

Genoa isn't even near Savoy.

 

[silver 2039]

Genoa isn't even near Savoy.

You know what I mean.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

The political situation in my latest C3C game. I'm Persia, the brown, and I included the territories of my chief "rivals;" which basically means nations that I actually care exist. There are something like 25 civs on the map, but you could add together most of their scores and still not equal mine, and they're pretty much a whole tech era behind. The nations shown are the ones who roughly keep pace with one another; collectively, we just entered the Modern Era. I and without question the world power. At this point, I just need to finish the UN so I can shut down that stupid victory condition, and I've effectively bagged my fourth Cultural Victory in this scenario (DYP-RAR on a 362-325 world map).

The situation has...evolved.



Now that the Greeks have conquered Europe, they are getting ideas about challenging the big dog in town (me). They demanded a tribute from me (the first time someone has dared do that this game lol), and since it was only Elephants, and I'm really not in the mood to fight a war, I gave it to them. I did, however, move the majority of my army and air force from Karachi to Mosul, in case they get any funny ideas; my Mediterranean Navy's base is already Jerusalem.

The English built the UN, so now I'm racing them to Cultural Victory before they hold elections. The voters will probably be myself, England, Korea, and Siam, in which case I would probably win, being allied with Siam and trading heavily with Korea, but I don't want to chance it.

 

[Mad Man]

My Balkanized Europe:

Yes i did screw up with the size of the countries in Eastern Russia...

Love the map but can you make a legend for it? Also can you make a balkanized North America?

 

[Arwon]

My Balkanized Europe:

Yes i did screw up with the size of the countries in Eastern Russia...

What's the red country in Iberia intended to be. Asturias or León? If it's León it should extent south a little more, so it has a small border with Portugal, covering the provinces of Zamora, León, and maybe even Salamanca as well as, probably, Asturias.

This is a map of Leon as claimed by the Leonesista movement.

I'd also probably separate Catalonia, Valencia and the Balearics.

 

[Sui Generis]

My Balkanized Europe:

Yes i did screw up with the size of the countries in Eastern Russia...

You should probably give Sicily independence also.

 

[Dachs]

The Bavaria that you gave independence to looks weird.

 

[Mad Man]

Is the red state above the Ukraine supposed to be Chernobyl?

 

[Mowque]

Cornwall is independent?

 

[Mad Man]

Yes! You didn't get the news?

 

[LightFang]

I remember someone was asking for a Balkanized USA or something.

“In this alternate reality, the westward expansion of the Anglo-American people proceeded pretty much as it did in our reality,” White writes, “but the United States government just couldn’t keep up. Every national identity crisis resolved itself in favor of the separatists instead.”

On the map, White details as sovereign, areas that:
“1. administered themselves as autonomous nations at some point in American history, or
2. shed blood to achieve or maintain their independence, or at least
3. threatened to.”

One important caveat: “The Native American tribes throughout the continent fit all these criteria, but I limited myself to only three native enclaves.”

* In 1787, a fire in the Philadelphia State House kills George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison and other members of the Constitutional Convention. This leads to a radically different constitution, and a fundamentally weaker Union.
* Vermont was an independent state until it joined the US as its fourteenth state in 1791. Not in White’s timeline: “Annoyed at the way the new federal government under John Adams is shaping up, Vermont refuses to join the Union, declaring itself an independent republic instead.”
* President Aaron Burr (in reality he was only vice-president at the time, if only by a hair’s breadth) annoys the French so much that Napoleon refuses to sell the gigantic Louisiana Territory to the US.
* In 1812, following an unsuccessful US invasion of Canada, New England secedes. Napoleon does sell Upper Louisiana to the US, but retains the densely populated area around Nouvelle Orléans.
* French Louisiana declares itself independent in 1815, refusing to recognize the Bourbon dynasty reinstated after Napoleon’s Waterloo defeat.
* Indian tribes east of the Mississippi are expelled to what later will become the Five Nations area (our Oklahoma, more or less).
* In 1835, Louisiana supports Texas independence from Mexico on condition that the new republic not join the US.
* Seminole Indians in Florida, together with runaway slaves, drive out the invading US in 1837.
* The Mormons found the theocratic state of Deseret within Mexican territory.
* Upper Canada and Quebec rebel from Great Britain and achieve independence in 1837-’41.
* The slave vs. free state quarrel, playing out more in favour of the South in this timeline, prevents an accession of settlers in Oregon to the US. They declare independence instead, in 1846.

* The Californian Gold Rush still happens as it did in our timeline, but it causes California and Deseret to claim independence from Mexico (in 1852) and Texas to push its border south to the Rio Grande. Mexico only manages to retain part of ‘our’ Arizona and New Mexico.
* Abe Lincoln elected president. The South secedes. The North, lacking the industrial muscle of New England, cannot subdue the South. The Five Nations take advantage by declaring independence.
* Canadian mismanagement of relations with the métis (a people made up of French and native components) in 1870-’72 leads to a successful revolt along the Red River, establishing a Métis Nation.
* Custer’s command is wiped out at Little Bighorn in 1876, leading to the establishment of the Dakota Nation.

Not mentioned in this timeline, but present on the map: the Maritime Dominion, a British toehold on the North American subcontinent (New Brunswick and Nova Scotia); and Newfoundland, either a separate British dominion or an independent state. Depending on the latter, this ‘balkanised’ North America is composed of no less than 17, and possibly 18 territories with different sovereignties. Compared with the real-time country that stretches ‘from sea to shining sea’, this USA has been reduced to a rump state – somewhat reminiscent of present-day Serbia relative to former Yugoslavia.

http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/page/5/

 

[Mad Man]

Thanks but i was thinking of North America as a whole.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Is the red state above the Ukraine supposed to be Chernobyl?

Why would it? It is a russian majority area, so i made it so. Maybe i should combine the two russian states... In real life they would've joined Russia, but since this is balkanized...

Anywho, i'm making Balkanized Europe 2.0, and it'll be released soon, Bavaria looks human, Spain looks cleaned up, I made the Isle of Man, i fixed Frisia, divided romania into wallachia and transylvania, and i just need to work on Italy.

Any suggestions for Italy? So far i made Scicily independent.

 

[Dachs]

Any suggestions for Italy? So far i made Scicily independent.

Split it in three parts: the southerners are still slimy dogs not worthy of inclusion in the great Italian republic/kingdom/whatever, while the Lombards et al are secessionistically annoying as well.

 

[TheLastOne36]

What is the borderline between the southerners and the northerners?

 

[Dachs]

What is the borderline between the southerners and the northerners?

I dunno, somewhere about halfway between Napoli and Roma or so.

 

[TheLastOne36]

i'll let more people comment before uploading the map. I'm not in a rush.

 

[Kyriakos]

You should remove Aromania, since Vlachs have never expressed the will to form an independant state. Not too sure about Crete though

 

[TheLastOne36]

Alot of nations haven't expressed the will to form an independent state, but i put them on the map anyway. Besides this is the balkanized version of europe.

 

[Mirc]

divided romania into wallachia and transylvania

Don't forget about Moldova, and maybe while you're at that you can divide Western Wallachia (Oltenia, or if you like Vlaquia Minor) from the rest too.

If you do that, I'll have ancestors in 3 countries.