Alternative Map for DOC

I don't think the province/region system is granular enough for that. I mostly want to reduce the number of possible values to like 0-5 and scale them later. I'm also thinking about a different category between historical and foreign.
 
I don't think the province/region system is granular enough for that. I mostly want to reduce the number of possible values to like 0-5 and scale them later. I'm also thinking about a different category between historical and foreign.

Isn't that contested?
 
Right. Currently historical is very broad, and dependent on the civ can refer to areas that have been controlled for most its history as well as possessions from colonisation or conquest that lasted only some centuries. The former cannot always be included in the core because of considerations for expansion stability. For instance for Japan only the Kanto/Kanzai parts are core, while the rest of the archipelago is as historical as e.g. Korea or the coast of China. I think this difference should be reflected.
 
When (not if :P) this map is finalised, could you release it as a stand-alone version? To my understanding - but I can't check, as I am on a holiday, without Civilization IV - the maps of this mod come with pre-placed cities and whatnot. I wouldn't mind - would like, even - the resources to be pre-placed, but not anything else that might make it incompatible with normal Beyond the Sword. Would such a thing be 1) possible 2) not a lot of work?
 
It would definitely be possible. If you base it on the 3000 BC map, you have an almost empty map to start with. Then, replace/remove the new terrain types, the custom terrain features (islands, rainforests etc) and non-BTS resources (cotton etc.).

A small mod could be created with the new terrain types, features and resources. It will be more or less a vanilla BTS game, but with the extra terrain elements.

Is anyone interested in the current map being exported (with/without the new resources and terrain features) to BTS?
 
I agree with this, the RFC map is also available separate of the mod, and this definitely deserves the same status.
 
It would definitely be possible. If you base it on the 3000 BC map, you have an almost empty map to start with. Then, replace/remove the new terrain types, the custom terrain features (islands, rainforests etc) and non-BTS resources (cotton etc.).

A small mod could be created with the new terrain types, features and resources. It will be more or less a vanilla BTS game, but with the extra terrain elements.
Ah, yes, I would be willing to look into that.

Because the RFC map has long since been the gold standard for normal, ordinary Earth maps, with GEM being a gigantically sized one that slows down to a crawl. But this new one would be a perfect new 'standard', so to say. It really looks quite beautiful and fun.
 
So then an area that has historically been controlled but only for a short period? I've been trying for 10 minutes and the only thing I can think of is Periodical and Legacy.
 
The cities I had in mind.

I think Lyon is more geographically accurate 1S?

The location J422 proposed is exactly what I had in mind.

When (not if :p) this map is finalised, could you release it as a stand-alone version? To my understanding - but I can't check, as I am on a holiday, without Civilization IV - the maps of this mod come with pre-placed cities and whatnot. I wouldn't mind - would like, even - the resources to be pre-placed, but not anything else that might make it incompatible with normal Beyond the Sword. Would such a thing be 1) possible 2) not a lot of work?

I certainly plan to do that once the map has reached it's final state. My main concern is the lack of march in base BTS making the Siberian area too powerful.
I really love some of the suggestions made and will surely implement most of them, but it'll have to wait two more weeks as I have multiple exams coming.

Edit: Does anyone have suggestions how to enlarge Korea without distorting it?
 
Off the top of my head you could compress the area between alaska and asia, move Japan east and enlarge Korea appropriately, then for latitude you could move move Japan further east and enlarge Korea towards the south, maybe also expanding Japan's north-south length too. It may look weird though.
 
So then an area that has historically been controlled but only for a short period? I've been trying for 10 minutes and the only thing I can think of is Periodical and Legacy.
You mean for what to call it? I haven't really thought about it yet but I think I'd go with historical and periphery.
 
I can only really judge suggestions from in game screenshots.
 
Nope, any DoC version should work.
 
Actually I would prefer screenshots ...
 
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