America's greatest ally

sysyphus said:
Or, if you look at the point of view of "we never would exist today if it weren't for..." then America's best friend is France.

Yet they accuse ME of living in the past...
 
Cuivienen said:
The rest of the British Commonwealth follows the UK, not the US, and so aren't our minions directly.
Not all of us :evil:

Good point about the Eastern Euro's, but they have no projected military presence anywhere, thus, dont appear to be as nice of allies as the UK.

Definitely agree with the South Korea part, but their citizenry may feel different. One country that has been thus far ommitted: Japan.
 
samildanach said:
Somewhat bizarrely over the last 15 years or so I would say Saudi Arabia has been the United States greatest and definitely most valuable ally. I appreciate that this may seem a pretty odd conclusion given some Saudi citizens flew jets into the WTC but what the hey its a strange world.

ahhhh yes, hwo could any forget the mutual usage of each othe rin this little political dance- Saudi Arabia uses the US to prop up its regieme in both internal, and internaitonal arenas, the US uses saudi arabia for oil.
 
That depends. Ally of the current administration? Or of the government in general? Or of the American people?

The first would be the massive oil and defense corporations propping up Bush's campaign.
The second would be Israel, neither Dems nor Reps dare move against them.
The third...? I don't know.
 
an ally actually does something in return North King, Israel is nothing but a liability for the UNited States.
 
That depends on your definition of ally, now does it not? I personally define an alliance as a pact made between two countries that are either friendly, or against a common enemy. Both apply to the US and Israel.

However, the term these days in this selfish and self serving world no doubt has changed, because everybody expects something back these days.

(Also, Israel returns the USA a base for Operations in the Middle East, albiet a unstable one, a nuclear power that basically will support any US action, and limited but still existing UN support.)
 
I admire your definition of ally NK, but I cannot see it being viable in modern conflict scenario.

The operations base example is dubious, I know of no major bases in Israel.

The nuclear power argument goes both ways, some like to use Israels posession of those weapons as an argument against israel, and its ally: The United STates for allowing it to posess them.

UN support? lol.
 
Immortal said:
an ally actually does something in return North King, Israel is nothing but a liability for the UNited States.

they have said they will attack Iran's nuclear facilities if they get them up and running

let's not forget the destroying Iraq's reactor as well.
 
that was for self preservation purposes, the fact they are also anti-american (in the case of Iraq, at that time) was only secondary to their hostility to israel, undeniably so.
 
Immortal said:
that was for self preservation purposes, the fact they are also anti-american (in the case of Iraq, at that time) was only secondary to their hostility to israel, undeniably so.

It's all about self preservation, their's just line up with ours on occasion.
 
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